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Why does Turkey want to start a war with Syria?

Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:27 pm
As blogged by ZH:

A youtube video "purports to be a conversation between key Turkish military and political leaders discussing what appears to be a false flag attack to launch war with Syria."

LINK

Forget the fact that Erdogan was caught stating that he wanted to initiate a "false flag attack" to launch a war with Syria...I'm just want the answer to why? Why does Turkey want to go to war with Syria?

What does "false flag attack" mean anyway? A fake attack by Syria on Turkey, thus justifying a Turkish retaliation on Syria and subsequent all out war?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:35 pm to
A false flag is when a government orhistrates a "fake attack" (for example: blowing up its own ship) and then blames that act of war on another country to justify going to war with that country. "false flags" can also be used to further various agendas. Some would also say blaming an accidental or incendintal event (say, a crazy loner assassinating a politician) on a specific unrelated group or entity (say, a former republican governor and VP nominee) could also constitute a "false flag".

What would happen is Turkey would be able to enter the war with NATO at its back to put in place a regime that will cater to them. Turkey is a rising power in the region that seeks the ability to expand its sphere of influence into surrounding countries and to use other peoples as scapegoats for domestic problems to keep the people from becoming increasingly dissatisfied with the current regime.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

What does "false flag attack" mean anyway? A fake attack by Syria on Turkey, thus justifying a Turkish retaliation on Syria and subsequent all out war?

Yep.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:47 pm to
"False flag" in its best display is Hitlers using "German bodies" as a reason for war with Poland.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118664 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:51 pm to
Iraq-great example of a manufactured "false flag"

Turkey v Syria: Just another proxy war within a proxy war within a proxy war.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:53 pm to
False flag would be if Toddy, Rex, and SpidermanTuba were all actually Republicans who act like obnoxious left-wingers to make left-wingers look bad.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:54 pm to
ZeroHedge/DR

Seriously, that site is the equivalent of the National Enquirer on steroids.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118664 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:59 pm to
Here's a question, and it borders on conspiracy; are western corporate and government interest pushing the Turkish government into a conflict with Syria to ultimately secure territories rich in energy resource to financially isolate Iran and keep Russia out of the West?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:03 pm to
The premise is accurate. Turkey is blocking youtube access until a video is taken down.

LINK
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Why does Turkey want to start a war with Syria?



Trying to recreate the old Ottoman Empire. Erdogan figures hey if Putin can do it why can I?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126957 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

The premise is accurate.
No, it isn't. Read the ZH headline and then read the Reuter's article you linked. Two different stories.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
5975 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Seriously, that site is the equivalent of the National Enquirer on steroids


+1

Nothing but false flags and the daily Russia/China/ [insert country here] is going to dump US treasuries
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20105 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Iraq-great example of a manufactured "false flag"


Bad example. Not all "manufactured" casus belli is a false flag.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:16 pm to
The premise is a youtube video posting classified information is being censored by the Turks, Reuters reported that.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19102 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:22 pm to
Operation Northwoods would be a good example of a "false flag". It was a plan developed in the early 60's to make it appear that the U.S. had been attacked by Cuba. It's a real dandy if anyone cares to look it up. And it's a damn good thing that JFK didn't authorize it.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:30 pm to
Another example is Israel's Operation Susannah, which fortunately was uncovered before it was carried out.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:32 pm to
If Russia invaded Turkey from the rear, would Greece help?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118664 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19102 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Another example is Israel's Operation Susannah, which fortunately was uncovered before it was carried out.

That's an interesting one.

An entire forum would be needed to cover a mere portion of all the false flags in recent history and how they have been used over the years to promote various agendas for various governments. Of course, most people just don't believe in conspiracies ...in spite of the facts.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 2:48 pm
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