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Northwestern Football Players Can Unionize

Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:26 pm


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Ohr ruled that Northwestern players can hold an election on whether they want to be represented by the College Athletes Players Association, which brought the case to the NLRB along with former Wildcats quarterback Kain Colter and the United Steelworkers Union.


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This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 2:28 pm
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:27 pm to
As a former walk on at TCU this is retarded.

But if they insist on calling Northwestern Football players "employees", that's fine. Pay them but pull their scholarships. Force them to pay their tuition, meals, housing, etc. with their new salaries.

And then the inevitable lawsuit by walk on players since this doesn't apply to them. Walk on players put themselves in harms way just as much as the scholarship guys considering a lot of them are pretty much target practice on scout teams.

I was a walk on at TCU and got 3 concussions throughout my time there playing wide receiver on scout team.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:27 pm to
What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32796 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:29 pm to
Will change everything.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:29 pm to
I can't see this being abused.

Nope. Not at all.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

And then the inevitable lawsuit by walk on players since this doesn't apply to them. Walk on players put themselves in harms way just as much as the scholarship guys considering a lot of them are pretty much target practice on scout teams.


if you treat them as employees then the less productive employees (the walk ons) will not get paid the same wage as the top performers.

No one made you walk on to the team.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:30 pm to
And don't forget paying the associated payroll and social security taxes that other employees pay. Also union dues.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:31 pm to
Bye bye Northwestern football if this is not overruled.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32796 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:31 pm to
Hmmmm... How would players pay union dues without pay? Schollys don't pay union dues.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

if you treat them as employees then the less productive employees (the walk ons) will not get paid the same wage as the top performers.


You apparently have no experience with unions.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

if you treat them as employees then the less productive employees (the walk ons) will not get paid the same wage as the top performers.

No one made you walk on to the team.


But according to the Northwestern players this is all about safety and medical treatment. They put themselves in harms way and they don't benefit financially. By this logic the walk ons and players who don't play are just as much entitled to compensation as the scholarship players since they put themselves in harms way during practices.

And without the scout team players the team either has to prepare without a scout team or use scholarship guys who play as the scouts. Then the walk ons could create their own "walk-on" union. They would say either pay us the same as scholarship players, or find another way to prepare for games!

I am just illustrating why this unionization is a bad idea.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
11987 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:34 pm to
They get hefty scholarships, don't they?!?! If they insist on being called employees then the scholarships and/or any other payment they receive should be considered salary, subject to taxes, dues, etc.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45790 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

If they insist on being called employees then the scholarships and/or any other payment they receive should be considered salary, subject to taxes, dues, etc.



What is tuition, room and board a year there? Uncle Sam is going to want his cut...
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:37 pm to
I guess the kids will now start paying for their own meals and lodging on road trips. Deducts, deducts, deducts!
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26612 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:37 pm to
Next: band unions, cheerleader and dance squad unions, student unions, civil unions, civil unrest, dogs sleeping with cats, ooohhhhhhh the humanity!!!!
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32796 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:39 pm to
I agree. So is GPA now a condition of employment? Do they receive unemployment benefits if they are kicked off the team? Workers Comp for injuries? Can coaches still discipline team members for conduct off the field? How does this impact NCAA penalties for Institutional Control? How sea it impact NCAA investigations and University responses to such investigations?
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:43 pm to
I'm not surprised:

quote:

Peter Sung Ohr was appointed Regional Director of the Chicago Regional Office (Region 13) in 2011. Mr. Ohr began his career with the NLRB in the Honolulu Sub-regional Office as a Field Attorney, where he worked from 1997 until 2005. In 2005, he was appointed Deputy Assistant General Counsel in the NLRB’s Division of Operations-Management.

Born in Seoul, Korea, Mr. Ohr received his B.A. degree from the University of California-Riverside in 1989. He was awarded his J.D. degree from Pepperdine School of Law in 1994 and a M.B.A. from Hawaii Pacific University in 2000.



So only one person made this decision? Jeez.

Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:45 pm to
Trying to imagine a player representative presenting a grievance to Nick Saban, Mike Leach or Bobby Knight, Woody Hayes, Bear Bryant.
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10747 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:48 pm to
I'm not sure they realize the full capacity of what is about to happen. They will long for the days of full rides, housing paid for, food paid for education paid for.

If this takes place, and it has a domino effect around CFB, you can say good bye to everyone but the Big Boys.

Those with the most money, can negotiate the higher compensation.

This is bad.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32796 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:49 pm to
This is horrid and makes NCAA football the same as NFL - which I don't like nearly as much.
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