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re: Remember that girl in Mass. that was taken from her parents by the state?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:40 pm to 4LSU2
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:40 pm to 4LSU2
I dont want the states "taxpayers" $, I want the judge to be stripped of his title. Judges have way to much power with no consequences for the things they do. The taxpayers end up having to foot the bill for them. Complete BS.
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:41 pm to SmackoverHawg
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I would take her out of the hospital and dare them to stop me.
This does seem like one of those things that would be a great time for community involvement. Hold a "rally" and have thousands of people show up. They go en masse into the Hospital with the parents and march that baby to the other hospital.
News crews all around. Let's see if the militarized police force are willing to fire on that crowd.
I'd ABSOLUTELY risk being handcuffed to take part in THAT
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:43 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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WTFF?
The race baiting mongers (Rev Sharpton, Jessie, and the like) would be causing a shite storm and every media outlet would blast this story 24/7.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:45 pm to udtiger
I don't know what I would do in this situation. I have a ten year old daughter, Me and the judge would have a problem and I don't think either would like the result.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:47 pm to 4LSU2
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he race baiting mongers (Rev Sharpton, Jessie, and the like) would be causing a shite storm and every media outlet would blast this story 24/7.
Do we REALLY need to racialize this story, too?
My LAST post on this aspect. But, damn.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:51 pm to udtiger
Havent read the thread and just goinf by quote in OP, my question is: Did the child's medical issues get significantly better once they took her away from her parents? If so, they did the right thing and these parents should be prosecuted.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:52 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Did the child's medical issues get significantly better once they took her away from her parents? If so, they did the right thing and these parents should be prosecuted.
Nope. Actually got worse
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:52 pm to onmymedicalgrind
most reports, and these are almost always biased towards the parents, that i've seen say the child got much worse
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ok. Well like I said I know nothing about this story besides whats in OP. If separating parent and child didn't lead to improvement, then I am extremely curious wtf is their justification for thinking this is child abuse or Munchausen by proxy.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:09 pm to onmymedicalgrind
This picture was reportedly taken in December of 2012. She was hospitalized in February of 2013 after getting the flu. It is a progressive disease, but she reportedly has taken a huge downward turn.
She is now in a wheelchair
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:14 pm to MrTide33
Man this seems like such a cluster. Like, there has to be more to this story, right? Who the hell would do something like this and risk all of the serious consequences that decision could possibly bring without compelling evidence? Are we missing something here? My head hurts.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:19 pm to onmymedicalgrind
I have no clue, and I'm too busy to research it, but if Boston Children's really did this because they thought it was a psych issue, they royally fricked up, IMO.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:21 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Agree.
There has to be more to this story. I know Massachusetts is as liberal as it gets but there has to be a good excuse for the courts to grant permanent custody to the state.
e.g., If things are as they are represented, I'd have long ago filed a gargantuan suit (landmark proportions) against MassGen Hospital and the MD's denying reaccess to Tufts. If there was anyway to go after the State of Massachusetts, and specifically the individuals involved, I'd take no prisoners. Sounds like a perfect Gloria Allred case.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:29 pm to NC_Tigah
Problem is, government moves so slowly. This poor girl probably doesn't have a chance.
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:30 pm to NC_Tigah
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Agree.
e.g., If things are as they are represented, I'd have long ago filed a gargantuan suit (landmark proportions) against MassGen Hospital and the MD's denying reaccess to Tufts. If there was anyway to go after the State of Massachusetts, and specifically the individuals involved, I'd take no prisoners. Sounds like a perfect Gloria Allred ca
Yea this is my point. If there is no basis to do what they are doing, they are opening themselves up to a suit of epic proportions. And let's be honest, those Harvard hospitals are some of the best in the country, I find it hard to believe they would be so cavalier about something like this.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:33 pm to mtntiger
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When the state took custody of the child, she was ill but was a normal teenager otherwise.
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When the state took custody of the child, she was ill but was a normal teenager otherwise.
She had a very bad medical history from the age of 7, when she had a stroke. Then, four years later:
" Justina's ordeal began in 2010, when she had severe cramps because of a stomach blockage, according to her father. Doctors at Connecticut Children's Hospital unsuccessfully tried to "flush" her lower intestinal tract and subsequently did exploratory surgery, he said. Doctors found a congenital band, about 20 inches of cartilage wrapped around her colon and removed that and the girl's appendix, he said.
In 2011, when her condition did not improve, he said doctors referred Justina to Dr. Alejandro F. Flores, a gastroenterologist at Tufts.
In 2012, surgeons considered removing Justina's colon but eventually performed a cecostomy, attaching a device to the colon that clears the bowels of fecal matter. "
That same Dr. Alejandro Flores is now on the staff of Boston Childrens, which in the 2013-14 ranking of childrens hospitals, is ranked #1 in 7 out of 10 categories, including Gastroenterology & GI Surgery. It's the teaching hospital for Harvard Medical School and jointly runs the Dana-Farber Children's Cancer Center (the famed Jimmy Fund" facility).
Because most of the parties have been under a gag order for a long time, we are only hearing one side of the story.
I don't agree with the judges' decision for the same basic reason as the rest of you (barring information not available to the public). But any implication that BCH is not a quality hospital is absurd, and I seriously doubt they would put their long-held top rated status at risk just to play games with the parents or the state of Massachusetts. Any parents in New England would be relieved to have their kids under the care of that hospital.
There's more to this story than the state trampling on parents' rights.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:35 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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In his ruling, Johnston, for the first time publicly, stated his belief that Pelletier suffers from “a persistent and severe Somatic Symptom Disorder,” a psychiatric diagnosis that doctors at Children’s reached in early 2013 when the girl was brought there because she had difficulty walking and eating.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:43 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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This does seem like one of those things that would be a great time for community involvement. Hold a "rally" and have thousands of people show up. They go en masse into the Hospital with the parents and march that baby to the other hospital.
News crews all around. Let's see if the militarized police force are willing to fire on that crowd.
I'd ABSOLUTELY risk being handcuffed to take part in THAT
Exactly! This is the kinda shite the government will get away with unless people stand up to it.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 6:45 pm to NC_Tigah
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I'd have long ago filed a gargantuan suit (landmark proportions) against MassGen Hospital
Mass General is a different hospital entirely. (Though it too is extremely reputable, ranked as the #2 hospital in the country for 2013-14, trailing only Johns Hopkins. It is rated higher than famous facilities like the Cleveland Clinic and the Mayo Clinic.) Medical facilities in Boston are top of the line.
By contrast, Tufts is rated as tied for 8th best hospital in the Boston metropolitan area.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 7:01 pm to NHTIGER
These aren't JWs trying to block all care, and they are not abusing her.
Sounds to me like renowned doc may have fricked up back when he was treating her and now he's covering his arse.
Sounds to me like renowned doc may have fricked up back when he was treating her and now he's covering his arse.
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