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Mississippi State scored 23 runs their first two games again Vandy.

Maybe, just MAYBE LSU is not that good of a hitting team?






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Tigerbait8
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Not hurting me, I've already hit more homers this season than LSU has combined.





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Dead End
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The new bats are hurting the sport of college baseball.


Agreed! I hate them.






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RaginCajunsULL
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Rajun Cajun


Nice edumacation






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UpToPar
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2. Recruiting

When was the last time you heard about a team in the SEC dominating with Home Runs? USCe maybe. But that is it. Recruiting is being held for pitchers, pitchers, pitchers.

Look how many hitters go pro out of high school just because they don't want to waste a couple years using a bat they will never use again. They mine as well jump straight into a wooden bat and start practicing now.



I don't buy this. First off, it's not like you can just stop recruiting hitters, and secondly, you could argue that your pitchers don't need to be as dominating as they were before due to the advantage they have with the new bats, thus decreasing the value of a dominating pitcher and increasing the value of a hitter like Bregman. Also, I don't think there has been a significant difference in the amount of hitters that go pro out of high school since the new bats.

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3. Draft position

This one goes along side the last one really. It is becoming more rare to see a highly touted recruit, only the hitters, coming out of HS improve his draft position. Sure, there are players that do so, Mason Katz for example, but that number is dropping. Why?

Because pitchers are going to college to increase their draft stock and take advantage of these bats. They know if they go to college they can put up sick stats and do nothing but go North on draft day.


I don't buy this either. You don't think the major league recruiters are aware of the new bats and the effect they have on the hitters and their stats? They also know that college pitchers stats are going to be inflated due to the new bats. That's what separates them from me and you. They can look at a pitcher/hitter and determine whether their stats are due to the bats or due to their abilities.

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6. The New Baseball

Again, this is going to hurt pitching. Pitchers are going to lose movement on their pitches forcing more balls to go smoother down the plate and allowing hitters to see pitches better. It will increase hitting but it takes away one of the greatest pitches in the history of sports, the curveball. It will not only hurt a curveball from its movement but the slider to. They will both still do what they do but on a much smaller scale of movement.


I also agree that this will hurt pitching, but isn't that exactly what we need to do? The bats are here because they make the game safer whether you think it needed to be made safer or not. Changing the ball is an effort to offset some of the effects the new bat has had. Plus, similar to hitters now hitting with a bat much more similar to the wood bats they will use at the next level, pitchers will be using a ball much more similar to the ball they will be using at the next level. I think this makes sense, especially because I don't think the new bats are going anywhere.






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DEANintheYAY
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Mississippi State scored 23 runs their first two games again Vandy. Maybe, just MAYBE LSU is not that good of a hitting team?


They gonna be mad at you!






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beauchristopher
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tired of these extra inning games because nobody can score





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Summer of George
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I wish we would stop playing USL and helping out their RPI.





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Cajun8
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Who the hell ranked ULL so freakin high in the polls is beyond me because they play no one all season.

South Alabama is the one team you can hang your hat on and I guarantee you they lose 2 of 3 in that series. Prob will have 7 losses going into that series and will fall to #20 in poll.


South Alabama terrible this year. Not sure if serious. They have 1 HR all season. Cajuns are 3rd in the nation with 28 HRs, check that, 29 after tonight's 10-1 win over Northwestern State.

The Cajuns are for real right now, it doesn't matter who's on our schedule. We are dominating our schedule. How can you fault us for being 23-2? We lost the first game of the season and since then are 23-1 with our only loss being a Sunday game against Bama. We swept Southern Miss at Southern Miss who is always a quality team, and they just beat Ole Miss tonight. We swept Georgia State who took 1 game from Ole Miss on the road no less. We are doing our part, it's fine if you think we are ranked too high, but to doubt the quality of our team is being in denial.






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catholictigerfan
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6. The New Baseball


the new baseballs will help I don't think it will bring us back to 2009 levels but I don't think that will happen. If we went from 6 runs a game to 3 runs a game I think the new baseball brings us to 4 or 5 runs a game.






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wahoocs
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I don't think anyone should question ULL's quality.

I'm pro-LA, and, if being honest about it, probably enjoy the atmosphere at Moore Field as much as Alex Box. After 3 Abita Ambers, I know I like it better. Lol

The question won't be ULL's quality of play. It will be are they peaking too early? ThaT's what I would be worried about.

I know ULL banged the shite out of the ball last year too.






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ScottieP
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ULL disagrees


They scored 10 run tonight and have 28 homers in 25 games.



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Cajun8
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I don't think anyone should question ULL's quality.

I'm pro-LA, and, if being honest about it, probably enjoy the atmosphere at Moore Field as much as Alex Box. After 3 Abita Ambers, I know I like it better. Lol

The question won't be ULL's quality of play. It will be are they peaking too early? ThaT's what I would be worried about.

I know ULL banged the shite out of the ball last year too.


I agree you want to peak at the right time. But the one difference this UL team has that we didn't have last year is deep pitching. We now have 2 legitimate Aces with former LSU pitcher Carson Baranik lighting it up just like Robichaux. And our bullpen is stronger.

Our team ERA is 2.25 and team batting avg. now at .303 with 29 bombs. We have multiple quality arms to be able to take us through a regional, something we didn't have at all last year. We had to rely on 1 Ace and a few blue collar guys that could get it done. Not so this year.

And yes, beer at the Tigue is fricking awesome.



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wahoocs
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Yes, pitching has improved, too.

You just can't argue with their record. Only someone insane would deny them their due.

Quality of competition may hurt them as the season progresses though. I just don't see where they get battle tested. And there's always the Robichaux Factor to consider. He's wasted an opportunity or two in his tenure. Lol






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tigermike2004
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Other teams hit ok! South Carolina has the same bats! We are just in a funk





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TigersforEver
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Back on topic, I don't see why it would be so hard to switch back to the 2009 bats. Since they were used so recently, it seems like it wouldn't take much to say "that was a bad move" and just go back.





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AstroTiger
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nice list tade. you put the frustration of the bats into words quite well here.





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LSU=Champions
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I upvoted a tad post.





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Scott Tiger
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I have a serious question. If the bats are the same for everyone then how is a single piece of equipment killing the game? If it was not for the money involved I would not mind seeing wood bats back in the NCAA.

I would not want my son to be on the pitchers mound against a team like the 2009 Tigers. We are lucky that team did not kill a pitcher from another team. The live bat and live ball are just too dangerous with the bigger, stronger, athletes of today. Go stand around with the LSU baseball team. Those boys are not boys..... they are FULL GROWN BIG MEN. The bats, and the dead ball, are necessary for the safety of all players including the ones wearing P&G.






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TigersforEver
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I would not want my son to be on the pitchers mound against a team like the 2009 Tigers. We are lucky that team did not kill a pitcher from another team. The live bat and live ball are just too dangerous with the bigger, stronger, athletes of today. Go stand around with the LSU baseball team. Those boys are not boys..... they are FULL GROWN BIG MEN. The bats, and the dead ball, are necessary for the safety of all players including the ones wearing P&G.






This is just ridiculous. The odds of a comebacker to the head are infinitesimal, and almost every time the pitcher is back within a year.






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