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Obama's NSA proposal and democratic partisan hackery
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:17 am
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:17 am
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:23 am to drexyl
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As always with Obama, it remains to be seen whether his words will be followed by any real corresponding actions.
Nailed it
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:30 am to wilfont
I love it. Ok guys, after a year we realize that it is wrong to collect phone records. We'll continue to read through your GMail, Hotmail, Yahoo, Facebook, as well as your searches and what sites you've visited though.
Also, seriously, how do you enforce this and how do you make sure that it isn't happening. Are we just supposed to trust this bullshite?
Also, seriously, how do you enforce this and how do you make sure that it isn't happening. Are we just supposed to trust this bullshite?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:35 am to drexyl
That's actually a pretty good article.
I love honesty, it's so soothing.
I love honesty, it's so soothing.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:45 am to Sentrius
Absolutely. Greenwald is consistent in his beliefs and not a hack. It makes sense that hacks would avoid his articles like the plague.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:48 am to drexyl
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It makes sense that hacks would avoid his articles like the plague.
:Decatur:
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:50 am to Decatur
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Glenn Greenwald;dr
If I were you, I wouldnt either. It pretty much nails you and those of your ilk:
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That puts hard-core Obama loyalists and pro-NSA Democrats – the ones that populate MSNBC – in an extremely difficult position. They have spent the last 10 months defending the NSA (i.e., defending Obama) by insisting that the NSA metadata program is both reasonable and necessary to Keep Us Safe™. But now Obama claims he wants to end that very same program. So what will they do?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:50 am to drexyl
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Absolutely. Greenwald is consistent in his beliefs and not a hack. It makes sense that hacks would avoid his articles like the plague.
Turn the clock back a few years and he was singing a very different tune
And he's very much a hack. He does not believe in objective journalism.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 10:52 am
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:53 am to Decatur
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Turn the clock back a few years and he was singing a very different tune
Tell me about it.
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Decatur Posted on 8/1/08 at 1:20 pm
Toleration is easier when new additions to our surveillance apparatus are "rolled out" in increments. Many people tolerate the Patriot Act today and will tolerate Patriot Act II, III, IV, and so on in the future as long as their trusted overseers tell them it's in their best interest.
I'm curious as to what you would not tolerate in terms of "privacy."
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:56 am to UncleFestersLegs
Yeah, that's nice. From a thread on the general topic of fascism. I've said I had been skeptical at the time because of how the Bush Admin had handled things but that the FISA Amendments Act cleared most of that up. You can go find that post since you like to spend your time in my post history.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 10:58 am to Sentrius
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It makes sense that hacks would avoid his articles like the plague.
nah, I stopped giving him any attention after he called me a few names
kinda like some of you guys
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:22 am to Decatur
So since the FISA amendments cleared everything up you are against Obama ending the bulk data collection.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:43 am to drexyl
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So since the FISA amendments cleared everything up you are against Obama ending the bulk data collection.
I don't think the changes he is making are necessary. I see it as a move to reassure the public. But from what I can see this does not end the "program". They are proposing changing the amount of time the data is collected and keeping the records under the control of the telephone companies. I think they envision putting in some kind of fasttrack controls to maintain a certain level of operation capacity. The devil will be in the details on this. I'm concerned how the proposed changes might impact the ability to have timely information that meets our security needs.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 11:44 am to ironsides
If they actually do stop this bulk data collection of phone records it only means that our government has decded that there are other sources of information-gathering that are better.
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