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How do savants' (is that the right word?) brains work?

Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:15 am
Posted by MrTwoBits
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:15 am
I've always been curious. I''m refering to the people who for example could watch a box of toothpicks fall on the ground and instantly know how many there are on the floor. It blows my mind. What is it about their brains that allows that to happen? And also, why does it seem like the people with that ability are somewhat "slow" otherwise? People who have that skill always seem to be somewhat slow cognitively, you don't really see some normal Joe who can do stuff like that.
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:17 am to
my best guess is that they have different parts of their brain turned off/on
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:17 am to
quote:

could watch a box of toothpicks fall on the ground and instantly know how many there are on the floor.




There would be 1000...
Posted by tigerman03
Metairie
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:17 am to
Too bad you can't count toothpicks, huh?
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:17 am to
All of their mental power is focused on that one area. Leaving little for the others. It's like that area is always moving and processing data.
Posted by TypoKnig
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:18 am to
Brain can only do so much. It's a give and take.
Posted by TexasTiger39
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:18 am to
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This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 11:55 am
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:20 am to
LINK

One of the more amazing things I've ever seen. Guy draws the entire skyline of major city's from memory and maybe some audio reminders if I remember correctly. I saw something where they looked at his drawings and they were pretty much to scale as well.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 10:21 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:25 am to
Although much remains to be discovered, what they believe is that the brain responds to the cognitive difficulties (savants are, generally, under some functional limitations linked to cognitive ability, even if they have a high level of adaptive functioning) - by creating new connections in other parts of the brain - effectively rewiring it.

This can result in perfect musical memory, photographic/phonographic memory, or other amazing abilities, as the information bypasses the normal cognitive centers.

Savantism is one of my areas of interest, although I'm not an expert by any stretch. That's my best hip shoot.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 10:26 am
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:25 am to
Derek Paravicini


Always amazed me
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 10:36 am
Posted by TigerNutts
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:28 am to
Link doesn't work.
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:29 am to
watch the youtube series about the real "Rain Man" guy, would link but at work
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:35 am to
The guy above who said it has to do with focus is correct. A normal persons version of "focus" is you are working on something but, meanwhile, you are also thinking about this month's bills, getting laid, what's for lunch, the upcoming weekend, etc at some level.

Savants are completely focused on that one task so they perform at a very high level with respect to that one thing. Resulting in them seeming "slow" with respect to other tasks. I wish I had the ability to perform like that but on cue and with the ability to turn it on and off.
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:36 am to
Fixed, thanks
Posted by SuzukiGoat
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:41 am to
I have seen normal people have moments of this...

Counting things while falling, replaying simultaneous sounds in their minds and counting them...

Always hit and miss.

Never met someone truly switched on.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:46 am to
quote:

why does it seem like the people with that ability are somewhat "slow" otherwise?


Most of them don't have a lick of sense.
Posted by DanTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 10:48 am to
I have never believed that toothpick nonsense. Do they have increadible eyesight that allows them to not only see every toothpick but to account for those that are stuck together? What happens when they grow older and vision goes down hill?
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:24 am to
Maybe he deducts the toothpicks as they are used. Always watching the toothpick box. It falls over and he says 968 because he knows 32 have been taken. His obsession with keeping up with the toothpicks is mistaken for the ability to count them all in the air....in a half/second, which we know is impossible.
Posted by LasVegasTiger
Idaho
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:36 am to
Is Karl Pilkington considered one?
Posted by EA6B
TX
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 11:39 am to

quote:

This can result in perfect musical memory, photographic/phonographic memory, or other amazing abilities, as the information bypasses the normal cognitive centers.


LINK

As far as I can find, there has never been a single documented example of a person having a true photographic memory. Many have exceptional memories, but when tested will eventually make a mistake.
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