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Did anyone REALLY believe the Cold War ended with the USSR?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:18 pm
I mean...REALLY?
Let's face it: We've been in conflict with the Russians since the end of WWII, if not long before that. It's not going to end diplomatically...not unless we find a way to economically top an authoritarian regime with a metric frick ton of oil & gas upon which both Europe & China are dependent.
Whether it's now or later, eventually this will come to a head. Maybe we should have finished them off in 1945...
Let's face it: We've been in conflict with the Russians since the end of WWII, if not long before that. It's not going to end diplomatically...not unless we find a way to economically top an authoritarian regime with a metric frick ton of oil & gas upon which both Europe & China are dependent.
Whether it's now or later, eventually this will come to a head. Maybe we should have finished them off in 1945...
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:19 pm to PenguinNinja
Rocky beat dat Russian arse
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:21 pm to PenguinNinja
Yeltsin wouldn't be doing what Putin is doing.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:21 pm to PenguinNinja
quote:“The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because…the cold war’s been over for 20 years.”
Did anyone REALLY believe the Cold War ended with the USSR?
I mean...REALLY?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:24 pm to NC_Tigah
I came here looking for that 
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:24 pm to PenguinNinja
Reagan died.
Rocky retired.
We elected a homoerotic windbag as president.
Cold War: Reactivated.
Rocky retired.
We elected a homoerotic windbag as president.
Cold War: Reactivated.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:25 pm to PenguinNinja
I do. The past 30 years have been pretty free from constant inundation of the US superiority over Russia. No more Rocky & Bullwinkle, no school drills hiding under a desk in case of a nuclear war ( ), no more pop culture obsession with Russian bad guys, people barely paid attention to the US vs Russia hockey game comparatively. Children of the 70s & 80s were raised on hating Russia. Most kids today couldn't find it on a map.
), no more pop culture obsession with Russian bad guys, people barely paid attention to the US vs Russia hockey game comparatively. Children of the 70s & 80s were raised on hating Russia. Most kids today couldn't find it on a map. Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:25 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:27 pm to PenguinNinja
I don't think some Russians quit fighting the cold war, just the Americans.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:30 pm to PenguinNinja
It is alive and well. They moved it to submarines underneath the seas since the Berlin wall came down.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:36 pm to PenguinNinja
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not unless we find a way to economically top an authoritarian regime with a metric frick ton of oil & gas upon which both Europe & China are dependent.
figure out a more efficient way to produce energy and sell it to europe and China?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:01 pm to oklahogjr
As someone who lived near an air force base which was first on the hit list in the event of war....yeah...it ended. My father was guarding fighter planes in Tampa during the Cuban missile crisis.
I spent most of my high school years waiting for the cold war to go hot (and it nearly did a couple of times) and the resulting nuclear clouds wiping out me and my family.
What's going on now...is nothing more then tin potted dictator assert control over a small country in his backyard who made the mistake of pissing him off.
If you didn't live during it you really don't have an idea how scary those times were.
"Finlandization" at it's finest.
I spent most of my high school years waiting for the cold war to go hot (and it nearly did a couple of times) and the resulting nuclear clouds wiping out me and my family.
What's going on now...is nothing more then tin potted dictator assert control over a small country in his backyard who made the mistake of pissing him off.
If you didn't live during it you really don't have an idea how scary those times were.
"Finlandization" at it's finest.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:05 pm to PenguinNinja
Ronald Reagan single handedly defeated Russia and ended the cold war.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:07 pm to germandawg
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Ronald Reagan single handedly defeated Russia and ended the cold war.
He had some help, but it was leadership at it's finest!
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:09 pm to LSUGrrrl
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no school drills hiding under a desk in case of a nuclear war
I remember those. They used to show us propaganda films as well. My favorite was the one where the Soviets claimed every invention made in the 20th century was theirs. I guess that was suppose to make us hate them.
Cold war is dead. Kids haven't practiced "duck and cover" for a long time, and that's a great thing.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:22 pm to PenguinNinja
Yes, it ended 20 years ago. We had peace with Russia for quite some time. They were not a threat at all.
Then, we surrounded them with military bases and tried to get every nation near them to join NATO. We backed them into a corner.
What would you think Russia won the Cold War and if the Warsaw Pact expanded all the way to France and Russia put military bases in Mexico and Canada? Would you, as an American, get sick of it?
I am not saying that Russia is in the right, but no, we have not been in constant conflict with Russia since WWII. This is new.
Then, we surrounded them with military bases and tried to get every nation near them to join NATO. We backed them into a corner.
What would you think Russia won the Cold War and if the Warsaw Pact expanded all the way to France and Russia put military bases in Mexico and Canada? Would you, as an American, get sick of it?
I am not saying that Russia is in the right, but no, we have not been in constant conflict with Russia since WWII. This is new.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Yeah. I'm assuming the OP didn't live through the real Cold War. Those were scary times. I honestly believed that a nuclear war could happen at any time.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:43 pm to LSUGrrrl
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Yeah. I'm assuming the OP didn't live through the real Cold War. Those were scary times. I honestly believed that a nuclear war could happen at any time.
It could have. My father ended up an Air Force major...some of the shite we would talk about would have chilled your blood in the late 70s early 80s.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:44 pm to LSUGrrrl
Why is everybody assuming that it won't get any worse than it is today? I mean, it's worse today than it was a month ago.
The Soviet Union imploded, and Russia was down for awhile. Putin obviously wants to make (an expanding?) Russia a player on the world stage again. It might not be the same dynamic as the old Cold War, but it could potentially end up being a big, continuing problem.
The Soviet Union imploded, and Russia was down for awhile. Putin obviously wants to make (an expanding?) Russia a player on the world stage again. It might not be the same dynamic as the old Cold War, but it could potentially end up being a big, continuing problem.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:10 pm to KCT
That wasn't the question. The OP asked if we really believed the cold war ended. Those of us who lived through it agree that it did. That doesn't mean another won't begin.
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