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90% agree. Minimalist gun control legislation is warranted.

Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:03 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:03 am
Like universal background checks.

However I'm

I'm confused because every time the issue of gun control is brought to the table our representatives run away from it like it was yesterday.

And here we have Obama's nomination for Surgeon General, Vivek Murthy.

quote:

The White House is facing its second Democratic rebellion in less than two weeks over a nomination that’s drawn quick opposition from rural Democratic senators. Obama has enough trouble with the GOP, which is nearly united in opposing Vivek Murthy’s nomination to become surgeon general, but it’s his own party that is again in position to derail another presidential pick.

Democratic Senate aides estimated on Monday that from eight to 10 Democrats may oppose Murthy’s nomination if the vote were to be held soon, mostly because of his left-leaning views on gun policy



LINK


But I'm sure Obama could get his pick for Surgeon General confirmed if his nominee only wanted universal background checks given the fact that 90% of the people agree?
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:13 am to
Obama is a fool. No president with ay sense nominates extreme candidates for confirmation 8-10 months before an off-year election.This guy is such a buffoon.

Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27871 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:15 am to
Extreme candidate? What am I missing?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:20 am to
I guess Harry Reid going nuclear is not working out to well. Left leaning nominees are going to be a though slog for the WH up to November.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Extreme candidate? What am I missing?


Any candidate with a scintilla of support for gun control is a powder keg waiting to blow back into their face. America loves their guns.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27871 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:33 am to
From what I remember he said gun violence was a large public health issue and then supported a ban on military style assault weapons.

He's right on the first point, obviously, and the second point isn't extreme, especially considering when he made it.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:46 am to
Gun control doesn't work. Want to stop all the unncesssary killing? Treat the mentally insane like they're insane and the criminals like criminals.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:48 am to
quote:

He's right on the first point, obviously, and the second point isn't extreme, especially considering when he made it.



It doesn't matter. Perception is reality especially on the gun control issue. What you might see as "sensible gun control legislation" is perceived as gun grabbing.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:49 am to
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Gun control doesn't work. Want to stop all the unncesssary killing? Treat the mentally insane like they're insane and the criminals like criminals.

Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21425 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:31 am to
Do we even need a surgeon general? Just leave the position open.
Posted by geauxtigs99
NY
Member since Dec 2005
1119 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:35 am to
quote:

From what I remember he said gun violence was a large public health issue and then supported a ban on military style assault weapons. He's right on the first point, obviously, and the second point isn't extreme, especially considering when he made it.


Gun violence is a criminal activity not a public health concern. Treat the laws on the books with respect and enforce first and foremost before a surgeon general runs into the 2nd with hair on fire. He is a career fundraiser and political hack with hardly any administrative medical experience. Compare his background to surgeon generals of the past, just another political friend appointment.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16537 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:37 am to
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the fact that 90% of the people agree? 



That myth needs to die.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36505 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:51 am to
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90% agree. Minimalist gun control legislation is warranted.


Those numbers are dubious, at best.

I'd say they're a downright lie, but that's my opinion.

The question that figure was pulled from is misleading.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18579 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:53 am to
quote:

From what I remember he said gun violence was a large public health issue and then supported a ban on military style assault weapons.

He's right on the first point, obviously, and the second point isn't extreme, especially considering when he made it.



Your ignorance is showing. Gun violence is no more of a public health issue than car wrecks, drunk driving, or any other LAW ENFORCEMENT issue. NOw, if you want to say mental health is a public health issue and getting treatment for the mentally ill and keeping guns out of mentally ill people's hands is a health issue - yes.

But just like "encouraging" my pediatrician to ask my kids if there are guns at home, gun violence has NOTHING to do with public health. But if the leftist, statist, gun grabbers can convince enough sheep of it (the way they have you) then they can do a nice end around on the second amendment. Which we all can recognize as their end game anyway.

How about he gets some common sense abortion control first? Have you seen how many of those "clinics" mirror Gosnel's?

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:00 am to
quote:

That myth needs to die.


quote:

Those numbers are dubious, at best.


Of course. And the point of this thread was to indirectly proved that fact. That is, if 90% (THAT'S 90%) of the people supported a minimalist gun control approach such as universal background checks politicians would be jumping on this issue like white on rice to victory. But ironically they don't. I wonder why? Because they would get their arse beat down in the voting booth.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29262 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:00 am to
quote:

universal background checks


when I see or hear this, I immediately know i'm dealing with someone that doesn't know what they're talking about.

anyone feel the same way?
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 11:20 am
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36505 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:03 am to
Just wait for his rage when he realizes there's no such thing as a firearm registry.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118636 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:07 am to
quote:

anyone feel the same way?


90% are lemmings and don't know what they are talking about.

The reaming 10% see it as a means to a different goal. An incremental step toward more a centralized command and control government.
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29262 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:16 am to
"close the gun show loophole"

i don't think they understand what this means
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29360 posts
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:30 am to
quote:

when I see or hear this, I immediately know i'm dealing with someone that doesn't know what their talking about.



I agree with your post, btw.
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