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The Anti-Science Advocates have won: Measles Outbreak in NYC
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:50 pm
Swing away, slugger!
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Of all the things to be nostalgic for, infectious diseases probably don’t make it onto many lists.
However, if you happen to pine for the good old days when measles was an active public health threat, I have good news for you. The anti-vaccine crowd is bringing it back.
quote:
There is currently an outbreak of measles in New York City. Considered eliminated in the United States in 2000, last year saw a record number of outbreaks around the country. It’s only three months into 2014, and not only is the nation’s largest city seeing cases in several boroughs, but other major metropolitan areas are warning of new cases as well.
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Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
Jenny McCarthy must be very proud.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
While I would love to lay this at good ole Jenny's feet. Isn't it arguable that a big problem in some places is not so much the anti-vac crowd as it is the large number of immigrants in a particular region?
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:53 pm to memphis tiger
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Jenny McCarthy must be very proud.
progressives in general
follows blue/red voting trends for the most part
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:54 pm to SettleDown
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Isn't it arguable that a big problem in some places is not so much the anti-vac crowd as it is the large number of immigrants in a particular region?
did NYC just start accepting immigrants again or something?
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
i love that map
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:55 pm to heartbreakTiger
the south will rise again!
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
Come on man... Do I really need to get a f'n booster bc of her?
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
did NYC just start accepting immigrants again or something?
No. But we've gotten much less adamant about the levels of demands we place on immigrants. I wonder if this is one of them?
I mean yeah. Jenny's nuts. But, I still know exceedingly few people who don't vaccinate.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:03 pm to SettleDown
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But we've gotten much less adamant about the levels of demands we place on immigrants.
Progressive problem, no?
Progressives and anti science!
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:08 pm to SettleDown
quote:Is that a problem, yes, but the number of people not vaccinating their children is growing.
No. But we've gotten much less adamant about the levels of demands we place on immigrants. I wonder if this is one of them?
As a future pediatrician (hopefully), there are few things that truly infuriate me more than those who put their children at risk like that.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:10 pm to Scruffy
The infuriating part for me isn't that they are putting their kid at risk.
It's that they convince themselves that they are doing it for their own good
It's that they convince themselves that they are doing it for their own good
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:18 pm to Volvagia
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It's that they convince themselves that they are doing it for their own good
Because they are afraid of autism.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:27 pm to GumboPot
The biggest gem is that they phased out their "scary" chemical in vaccines a decade ago. (For PR, no connection was found and is still used in EU vaccines)
Austism rates unaffected
Rates of blaming vaccines for autism has gone up though.
Austism rates unaffected
Rates of blaming vaccines for autism has gone up though.
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't see any data in this article showing the majority of these cases were related to people not being vaccinated. Hopefully that will turn out to be the case.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
This isn't quite the slam dunk that you think it is.
Measles was going away before vaccines.
The percentage of people that died from measles in the US when vaccines were introduced was roughly .0002%. More people die of diabetes, yet we continue to make processed sugar and food.
Herd immunity in combination with better living conditions and nutrition was lowering the death rate, while the human body was gradually learning to deal with the virus in a non fatal way.
Measles was going away before vaccines.
The percentage of people that died from measles in the US when vaccines were introduced was roughly .0002%. More people die of diabetes, yet we continue to make processed sugar and food.
Herd immunity in combination with better living conditions and nutrition was lowering the death rate, while the human body was gradually learning to deal with the virus in a non fatal way.
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:55 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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The percentage of people that died from measles in the US when vaccines were introduced was roughly .0002%.
You seem to know a thing or two about epidemiology so it's curious that you added this fact in spite of being illrelevant.
It's like arguing that Ebola isn't really that bad because .00000000000000001 Americans die from it.
That's lower than the rate of amusement park deaths!
Even today, with all of the supportive care and nutrition, mortality of measles is around .1%
Yes, it's still low.
But it is so rediciously easy and cheap to prevent that even that one out of a 1000 is too high.
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 11:56 pm
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:02 am to Sleeping Tiger
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The percentage of people that died from measles in the US when vaccines were introduced was roughly .0002%. More people die of diabetes, yet we continue to make processed sugar and food.
Nice post. It's interesting how people jump on the 'science bandwagon' and attack antivaxers when there are much more pressing issues that are never mentioned. Most of the science bandwagoners would call Bloomberg's attempt at limiting soda consumption communism or some bullshite when sugar consumption and other lifestyle factors contribute to more illness and death than infectious diseases in industrialized nations.
Posted on 3/17/14 at 12:15 am to Sleeping Tiger
Show me the incidence of measles not the death rate when looking at vaccinations.
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