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Metal roof on home, who has one?
Posted on 3/16/14 at 9:15 am
Posted on 3/16/14 at 9:15 am
Can they be insulated for sound? We're building next year and were planning on a metal roof. We stayed in a BnB last night and it poured and was so damn loud. But this place is old, was curious if new ones can be well insulated.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 9:21 am to VanRIch
Just deck the roof as normal and strip it out for the metal. Get your insulation blown in the attic and you will hardly ever know its raining unless you look outside.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 9:59 am to VanRIch
We built last year and went with a 26ga galvalume from Majestic Metals.So far we are very pleased with it.We decked our roof with 7/16 OSB,put down synthetic felt,2x4's for the lathing and then put down the metal.The attic is insulated but you can still hear a hard rain.It rained hard here last night to but it wasnt to loud...more relaxing than anything.Make sure your roofer uses the ZAC screws,they are supposed to last longer.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:14 am to VanRIch
12 inches of cellulose in your attic and you dont hear it raining.
I personally want to hear it and open the window or door toward the carport
I personally want to hear it and open the window or door toward the carport
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:19 am to pdubya76
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2x4's for the lathing and then put down the metal
So I'm understanding that you'd have a 1.5" airspace space between the metal and the decking, right?
So what about when a big-arse gust of wind occurs...it doesn't peel off that metal?
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:31 am to VanRIch
Built a house 6 months ago and went with a metal roof. I also had the roof decked with 1/2 inch thermostat radiant barrier plywood then stripped it with 2x4's. All of the edges are capped so wind is not an issue. I did spray foam insulation on my ceilings and I can only hear the rain if it is an absolute frog strangler even then it is not that loud. I love it and wouldn't change a thing about it.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 10:41 am to CoastieGM
Thats correct.Most folks use 1x4 for lathing but my metal guy says that the screws will pull out of the 1x4's.We only have about 1.5" maybe 2" of overhang so wind hasnt been an issue.
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 11:31 am
Posted on 3/16/14 at 11:05 am to pdubya76
Definitely putting a metal roof next time on my place. Screw asphalt shingles, they don't last and cause nothing but problems.
Not too worried about holding the metal down, the roof is 8" center match covered by the shingles.
I'll just use 1x4s so there's less space.
As far as rain noise, I find it relaxing.
LC
Not too worried about holding the metal down, the roof is 8" center match covered by the shingles.
I'll just use 1x4s so there's less space.
As far as rain noise, I find it relaxing.
LC
Posted on 3/16/14 at 1:01 pm to LongueCarabine
I skipped the plywood. It seemed to me that screwing the screws into the rafters would hold better than into plywood. Metal reflects the sun too.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 1:12 pm to CoastalReb
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then stripped it with 2x4's. All of the edges are capped so wind is not an issue.
So with the edges trimmed w/ 2x4's, you have a permanent air gap without that holds the air? (no circulation?) I'm trying to get my mind around these details.
The reason I'm so interested in the details (especially concerning wind) is that I'm tired of having to replace a bunch of shingles every time I go to my place in New Mexico. The month of July is basically one-month hurricane.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 1:16 pm to yattan
We went with the decking because it "tied" the structure together making it stronger.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 1:18 pm to pdubya76
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We went with the decking because it "tied" the structure together making it stronge
Yep, that decking is going to help keep the rafters from moving/shifting in a major wind event...
Posted on 3/16/14 at 1:23 pm to CoastieGM
If you are worried about wind uplift on the eaves and gables edges, you can get specs from the metal panel manufactures that show how you can install clips/ cleats along the edges to prevent the wind from lifting the roof on the edges. There is also techniques to cleat the ridge caps to prevent them from being blown off by the wind.
And if you go with a higher profile corrigation, like an R-panel, you can buy what is called "bird stop", its a rubber gasket that's installed between the panel and drip edge on the eaves that closes up the corrugations to prevent insects, etc. from going under the roof. It also prevents wind from blowing up under the roof.
Back in the late 80's, early 90's, I worked for a wholesale roofing supply company in South Florida as a salesman. After Hurricane Andrew came through, they developed these specs to combat the roofing failures that were caused by the wind.
And if you go with a higher profile corrigation, like an R-panel, you can buy what is called "bird stop", its a rubber gasket that's installed between the panel and drip edge on the eaves that closes up the corrugations to prevent insects, etc. from going under the roof. It also prevents wind from blowing up under the roof.
Back in the late 80's, early 90's, I worked for a wholesale roofing supply company in South Florida as a salesman. After Hurricane Andrew came through, they developed these specs to combat the roofing failures that were caused by the wind.
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 3/16/14 at 1:26 pm to VanRIch
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Can they be insulated for sound? We're building next year and were planning on a metal roof. We stayed in a BnB last night and it poured and was so damn loud. But this place is old, was curious if new ones can be well insulated.
Yep, I've had one. Many homes around here do because of heavy snow. They can be insulated for sound and will not be much different than a traditional roof in that regard.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 1:29 pm to CoastieGM
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with the edges trimmed w/ 2x4's, you have a permanent air gap without that holds the air? (no circulation?) I'm trying to get my mind around these details.
The metal is corrugated so you have the ridges every 8 or so inches.This allows for airflow between the metal and the decking.There is a trim piece on the facia board that supports the slight overhang and trims it out.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 2:09 pm to LongueCarabine
Yeah the sound of rain is relaxing but this downpour last night was just ridiculous.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 2:14 pm to VanRIch
BnB probably didn't have decking if it was really old, probably just furring strips connected to rafters. I put a metal roof on my dad's place. He had shingles with plywood decking underlay, I just screwed the metal straight down over the shingles without furring. You just have to make sure to use the proper screws. Cant even hear the rain.
This post was edited on 3/16/14 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 3/16/14 at 2:21 pm to VanRIch
I've had one for 15 years and they put it on top of the old roof with strips of wood screwed down so there is a dead air space in between. No more noise than a normal roof , cooler up stairs and I had two big limbs fall on it with just a few dents, would have gone through an average roof or severely damaged it. Hail doesn't do any damage at all. Lowered my home owners 10%. Looks like the day they put it on as well.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 2:24 pm to BIG Texan
The metal I used was painted white. You can definitely tell the difference in temp now in the attic during summertime.
Posted on 3/16/14 at 2:33 pm to VanRIch
Will be putting a R metal roof on in the next couple of months. We're going to probably use spray foam toward the ends with the gasket at the very end. We'll see.
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