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re: Dad shoots teen boy found in his daughters bed
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:22 am to Byron Bojangles III
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:22 am to Byron Bojangles III
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he's still an intruder in my home who physically assaulted me
You don't know he physically assaulted the dad. It could have very well been the other way around.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:22 am to Byron Bojangles III
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he's still an intruder in my home who physically assaulted me
if he's hiding under a bed, he's pretty much surrendered man. Keep a gun on him and call the cops saying he wouldn't leave and that he assaulted you.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:23 am to Byron Bojangles III
In truth...an actual intruder...its not like Im going to try to pull him out from under the bed. Might stand guard...might shoot....depends on if he was drugged up.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:23 am to Asgard Device
If you listen to the legal advice of some TD posters you can shoot 'em in the back when they're breaking into your car. There was a thread recently where people were posting the correct statutes but interpreting them in very creative ways.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:24 am to REG861
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It could have very well been the other way around.
Very well could have been. If the dad busted in there and started beating his arse, then the kid probably pushed the dad off of him I'd imagine. Could've started it.
However, if the dad walks in and finds an intruder (according to his daughter like reports say) then I'd probably shoot him. Unless he's under the bed and giving up. It'd be hard to shoot somebody who's completely surrendered obviously.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:24 am to Moustache
So if the guy's hiding under the bed and the daughter's claiming she doesn't know him (which we later learn is bullshite), that makes a world of difference.I can understand the father freaking out at the notion of some intruder pedo hiding under his daughter's bed.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:24 am to Asgard Device
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For all we know the kid was the one standing his ground.
I may be completely wrong, but I dont think you can legally stand your ground in another persons home. That just would make 0 sense.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:25 am to Moustache
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I value life greatly. I don't want my quality of life fricked up if someone robs me blind. If I can shoot them and kill the scum of the world and save some tax dollars while preserving quality of life for my family, where's the downside?
This discussion is pretty separate from the topic of thread, and I guess I'm kind of derailing it. Most importantly the downside is that the penalty for theft isn't and shouldn't be death. Furthermore, you, as a general citizen, shouldn't be given the authority to be judge, jury, and exuctioner of people. In this country people are entitled to a trial. If you shoot someone dead for stealing your audio system when no one's life is plausibly in danger then you are in effect saying that a human life is worth maybe a few thousand dollars. That's a pretty cheap value for life.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:25 am to Byron Bojangles III
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he's still an intruder in my home who physically assaulted me
he was invited into the home and we don't know if he assaulted the dad, could of very easily been the other way around and most likely was the other way around. He could of been in flee mode and hid under the bed to escape the assault.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:26 am to Byron Bojangles III
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he's still an intruder in my home who physically assaulted me
Did he though, the first article said they were no other injuries reported.
It's quite possible the dad came in with the gun, kid tried to hide under the bed, and the dad shot him in the head.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:27 am to Dam Guide
How the hell do you get this:
out of this:
You one of them creative interpreative readers or something?
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So the dad beat the frick out of the kid, kid hid under a bed to escape the dad and the dad straight up executed him.
out of this:
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Deputies said the homeowner's 16-year-old daughter let the boy into the home on Bridgestone Ridge and Bridgestone Path.
Around 2:30 a.m., authorities got a 911 call from a girl who said her father shot a man underneath her sister's bed, and that the man who was shot took a bullet to the head.
According to homicide detectives, the father found the teen and there was a scuffle.
You one of them creative interpreative readers or something?
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:29 am to Dam Guide
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he was invited into the home and we don't know if he assaulted the dad, could of very easily been the other way around and most likely was the other way around. He could of been in flee mode and hid under the bed to escape the assault.
Exactly. Finally someone has some common sense.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:29 am to tgrbaitn08
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thats a lot of what ifs
Any story you come up with right now is what ifs.
What we know from the the report right now is, dad finds man, some sort of scuffle happens, dad shoots man under bed. Daughter called 911 after the shooting and man was invited into the home by the daughter.
If I missed any from the reports let me know, because this is all I have seen so far...
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:30 am to REG861
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So if the guy's hiding under the bed and the daughter's claiming she doesn't know him (which we later learn is bullshite), that makes a world of difference.I can understand the father freaking out at the notion of some intruder pedo hiding under his daughter's bed.
If thats the case, then someone is lying saying there was a physical confrontation. Cant have it both ways. If the kid was under the bed the whole time, the dad is screwed
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:30 am to brass2mouth
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I may be completely wrong, but I dont think you can legally stand your ground in another persons home. That just would make 0 sense.
The unified stupidity on this board scares me.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:30 am to REG861
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So if the guy's hiding under the bed and the daughter's claiming she doesn't know him (which we later learn is bullshite), that makes a world of difference.I can understand the father freaking out at the notion of some intruder pedo hiding under his daughter's bed.
Well, I can't say for sure what i'd do until in that situation, but it'd be unlikely for me to shoot a guy who's hiding and giving up. I'd keep a gun on him until the cops arrive.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:31 am to brass2mouth
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You one of them creative interpreative readers or something?
Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is the often the correct one. The kid was scared enough to hide under the bed, who do you think started the scuffle?
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:31 am to GaryMyMan
The statutes arent all that hard to understand really.
Lets not talk about the texas case for a second and say that:
Intruder in your home: justifiable homicide.
Intruder trying to get into your car with you in it: justifiable homicide.
The rest occurring outside of those environments are a lot more open to interpretation.
Lets not talk about the texas case for a second and say that:
Intruder in your home: justifiable homicide.
Intruder trying to get into your car with you in it: justifiable homicide.
The rest occurring outside of those environments are a lot more open to interpretation.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 10:33 am to Peazey
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This discussion is pretty separate from the topic of thread, and I guess I'm kind of derailing it. Most importantly the downside is that the penalty for theft isn't and shouldn't be death. Furthermore, you, as a general citizen, shouldn't be given the authority to be judge, jury, and exuctioner of people. In this country people are entitled to a trial. If you shoot someone dead for stealing your audio system when no one's life is plausibly in danger then you are in effect saying that a human life is worth maybe a few thousand dollars. That's a pretty cheap value for life.
That's your opinion. If somebody is stealing a lot of money from me, it completely fricks up my children's lives and my wife's life and my life. It would cause me undue stress and we all know stress could cause health problems, which in turn affects my quality of life. If someone is dumb enough and that much of a leach on society to rob my house blind (I'm talking loading up a van full of shite, not just taking one or two things), then I wouldn't lose sleep over it at all if I shot them and got to keep my family's quality of life higher.
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