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re: Making a personal crawfish pond... Updated pg. 7 fry pics

Posted on 11/24/14 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by Bama and Beer
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 5:56 pm to
high jack, did you get a name change?
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 6:30 pm to
Maybe.
Posted by KingRanch
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 6:31 pm to
Obviously
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 11:29 am to
Here are some updated pics of the pond. A recent rain muddied it up, it had turned quite dark this summer/fall. Anyway, I walked around and estimate I can fit 18 to 20 traps in it if I put one every 5 yards or so.





Here is a close up of the dead alligator weeds and green algae growing on them for forage.



My biggest concern is that the pond is now full of frogs. They are leopard frogs, not bull frogs. My question is, how devastating can they be on a crawfish population? Do they eat them? I assume so...
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 11:35 am
Posted by fillmoregandt
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:05 pm to
I'd be more concerned with birds eating the babies than frogs but I don't know very much about farming crawfish
Posted by DownSouthDave
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:08 pm to
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My biggest concern is that the pond is now full of frogs.


Sounds like a pellet gun and a headlight could take care of that problem pretty easy.
Posted by GeeOH
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:08 pm to
Haven't read whole thread...but water has to have oxygen. If not, you need aeration.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:09 pm to
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I'd be more concerned with birds eating the babies than frogs but I don't know very much about farming crawfish



Birds are another big concern, but I have never jumped anything out of there other than wood ducks. The little pond has never had fish in it to my knowledge so maybe Blue Herons and what not have learned not to check it out over the years since it was barren.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:18 pm to
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Haven't read whole thread...but water has to have oxygen. If not, you need aeration.



That has been addressed. Unfortunately, those are expenses I'm not willing to risk as it is still not a given this is going to work come next spring. I understand that it would help the productivity and increase max yield, but I've decided just to let it play out how it is since this is small scale and only for personal use.

I'm basically working off the general idea that crawfish will at least survive if not thrive in a muddy pond in Louisiana.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:36 pm to
Need to trickle water in there 24/7 baw

Trust me. I'm an expert
Posted by TexasTiger01
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:37 pm to
My 6 year old and his Red Ryder could handle those frogs for ya
Posted by GeeOH
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:38 pm to
They won't be healthy. My best friend fishes over 700 acres. He was talking about how important the stubble/vegetation is. Topic went to water toxicity from geese on to how important oxygen is. Some vegetation gives oxygen. Rain as well. But sitting stagnant water could be an issue for you. I'm no expert, just a letting you know what I was absorbing. Basically, without proper nutrients, they will all stay small.
Posted by jorconalx
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 12:41 pm to
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those are expenses I'm not willing to risk


could be the most expensive sack of crawfish you've ever bought
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

how important oxygen is. Some vegetation gives oxygen. Rain as well. But sitting stagnant water could be an issue for you. I'm no expert, just a letting you know what I was absorbing. Basically, without proper nutrients, they will all stay small.


For sure. It's not sewed up by any means.

I think I'm looking at 1 of three outcomes...

1. It works brilliantly and it's so full of crawfish we never have to worry about purchasing crawfish again.

2. It works half assed and I may have to seed it again in an attempt to foster the development hoping to eventually lead to a small sustainable population. We can catch a small batch once or twice a year of small ones, but I still end up having to buy crawfish a few times.

3. I try to catch some next spring and it's a bone yard. Something has gone wrong and we do not catch a single crawfish or see any holes. They are just gone.

I'm leaning towards 2, which will be fun to play in with my kids.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Road Tiger
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:15 pm to
Just curious. I don't know if anyone covered it in this thread, but what is a good depth for a crawfish pond? Or what is a max depth you could use?
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:19 pm to
Most rice fields are knee deep. I would say that level maximizes production vs. water volume.

I think any would work, but deeper ponds would have more void space.

Mine is about 4 foot deep in the middle.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 2:39 pm to
Leopard frogs are ferocious predators, I know this because I kept one for a few days and it would instantly eat as many crickets as I dropped in the tank. There was some swamp behind my old house in florida though where they coexisted.

I'd try to round up a few water snakes to keep the frog population in check.
Posted by CootKilla
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:41 pm to
Where is this pond located? I can help out on the leopard frogs. Can you get water from any other source to aerate a little a week? It would help A LOT!
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:42 pm to
Our crawfish ponds can get up to thigh deep, just fwiw

The deeper you can possibly go the better (twss)
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 6:43 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

The deeper you can possibly go the better
True. The deeper the less the oxygen problems will be had. Water temp is affected much more in shallow pond. Hot water = less oxygen.

To the Op, I see problems with a lack of vegetation for them to eat.
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