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Off Duty cops (NYPD) want to carry handguns into NFL stadiums
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:39 am
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:39 am
This is in reaction to the NFL banning concealed handguns into NFL stadiums that came about last year (I think).
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I guess Gumbo the dog will eventually be put down for getting out of hand if they actually do sue and win.
What say the OT? Is this a case of cops thinking they deserve preferential treatment or what?
Personally (and I am full on 2nd A) I think a drunk with a gun is a recipe for disaster be it a regular trained citizen or an off duty cop, and if me as a trained citizen can't carry then off duty police shouldn't either. There are plenty enough security, both armed and unarmed to regulate the event. A couple dozen or so off duty cops arent going to make it any safer.
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The New York Police Department is considering a challenge against the National Football League policy that bans off-duty police offers from carrying their weapons into stadiums.
Two Minnesota police organizations have sued the NFL, claiming it violates state law.
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I guess Gumbo the dog will eventually be put down for getting out of hand if they actually do sue and win.
What say the OT? Is this a case of cops thinking they deserve preferential treatment or what?
Personally (and I am full on 2nd A) I think a drunk with a gun is a recipe for disaster be it a regular trained citizen or an off duty cop, and if me as a trained citizen can't carry then off duty police shouldn't either. There are plenty enough security, both armed and unarmed to regulate the event. A couple dozen or so off duty cops arent going to make it any safer.
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:39 am to brass2mouth
frick them, no.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:40 am to brass2mouth
a drunk off duty cop is still a drunk with a gun in a stadium full of people. absolutely no need for it and a terrible idea to begin with.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:41 am to brass2mouth
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"Well Eli, Smokey [Tennessee mascot] just came out of the tunnel, and he's about 100 yards away from me now, and if I had my deer rifle I believe I could drop him, back to you Eli" -- Jerry Duncan's [Alabama sideline reporter in 1980s] comments to Eli Gold just prior to kickoff against Tennessee.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:41 am to brass2mouth
A POST certified police officer should be able to carry anywhere he/she wants.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:42 am to Geauxld Finger
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a drunk off duty cop is still a drunk with a gun in a stadium full of people. absolutely no need for it and a terrible idea to begin with.
yeah, i would like to see how they could justify this applying to only off duty cops.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:43 am to Geauxld Finger
I agree, I had a pretty intense "debate" I guess you could say with a cop and his wife about this rule when the NFL came out with it banning them from carrying.
I rather only have actual on duty security/police be armed rather than some deputy/trooper/PO thats tanked up with a pistol in his pocket.
I rather only have actual on duty security/police be armed rather than some deputy/trooper/PO thats tanked up with a pistol in his pocket.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:43 am to toosleaux
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A POST certified police officer should be able to carry anywhere he/she wants.
Ignorant thinking.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:44 am to brass2mouth
It should be 100% up to the NFL, owners of the stadium, etc.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:44 am to brass2mouth
A cop who is off duty should have the same rules as any other fan
As a season ticket holder, frick no
As a season ticket holder, frick no
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:46 am to brass2mouth
Outstanding rebuttal. Where do you practice?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:49 am to toosleaux
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Outstanding rebuttal. Where do you practice?
Where ever I may roam, in the court of common sense.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 11:57 am to brass2mouth
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Off Duty cops (NYPD) want to carry handguns into NFL stadiums
Show of hands...who would feel safer due to off duty police being armed at football games they are going to, presumably, as fans?
Anyone...other than police organizations?
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:02 pm to brass2mouth
Unless the NFL owns the stadium, they have no say in the matter. An off-duty officer must follow the state laws the cover concealed carry and must also respect the owner of the business policy about carry.
Unless the NFL owns the Super Dome, they can kiss everybody's arse with their rules.
Unless the NFL owns the Super Dome, they can kiss everybody's arse with their rules.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:04 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I would feel safer that if there was a threat trained people who could handle it would already be in the stadium.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:05 pm to brass2mouth
What is occurring in NFL stadiums that would require more than just on duty officers to pull their guns? If an off-duty cop wants to assist in breaking up a fight or something when the on-duty cop needs help, that is fine. But, I doubt there will ever arise a situation in which pulling out his gun is warranted.
Like others have said, if a civilian that has a concealed carry license can't carry, neither should off-duty cops
Like others have said, if a civilian that has a concealed carry license can't carry, neither should off-duty cops
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:09 pm to brass2mouth
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:11 pm to DestrehanTiger
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Like others have said, if a civilian that has a concealed carry license can't carry, neither should off-duty cops
agree, off duty means you are a civilian like the rest of us.
This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:15 pm to Dam Guide
Google LEOSA.
Posted on 3/11/14 at 12:20 pm to toosleaux
There are no NFL stadia in new York City
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