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Joe Morgan & Jed Collins not tendered, now UFAs
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:13 pm
per https://twitter.com/LarryHolder/status/443135025194622977
sez the team still wants them but is avoiding the $1.4mil cap hit on each if they were tendered.
sez the team still wants them but is avoiding the $1.4mil cap hit on each if they were tendered.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 5:15 pm
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:26 pm to blueslover
I'm perfectly fine with Collins leaving.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:29 pm to blueslover
quote:
sez the team still wants them but is avoiding the $1.4mil cap hit on each if they were tendered.
what will they make otherwise?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:29 pm to Hoodoo Man
They'll probably sign him cheaply. Doubt he has much of a market honesty.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:30 pm to Rand AlThor
Probably not.
But I'd like to improve that area.
Carolina makes me jealous in that regard.
But I'd like to improve that area.
Carolina makes me jealous in that regard.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:34 pm to Hoodoo Man
only if they pickup someone named Jethro
Ya'll know that Donna Douglas (Ellie Mae Clampett) lives in Pride Louisiana? Was Miss Baton Rouge & Miss New Orleans in the 50's
Ya'll know that Donna Douglas (Ellie Mae Clampett) lives in Pride Louisiana? Was Miss Baton Rouge & Miss New Orleans in the 50's
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:37 pm to drake20
2014 NFL minimums
By Yrs experience
Rookie
$420K
1
495K
2
570
3
645
4-6
730
7-9
855
10+
955
By Yrs experience
Rookie
$420K
1
495K
2
570
3
645
4-6
730
7-9
855
10+
955
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:41 pm to blueslover
...so we could sign them both and still save around ~1.5M?
Collins only played 10 snaps @PHI.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:43 pm to drake20
blues posted the numbers but if they sign for the minimum it costs only about 1/3 the price of the tender.
Johnson had been said before, but I figured as soon as Bush had been tendered and days passed without the others announced this would be the case.
I was also shocked Bush didn't get a 2nd round tender because he could be our starter and another team could give him something as low as $2.5m to steal him away with no compensation or we match and pay more than the tender would have been (about $2.1 or $2.2).
Edit:
Actually with the vet minimum rule each would only cost $570,000 on the cap. So about $1.1m.
Johnson had been said before, but I figured as soon as Bush had been tendered and days passed without the others announced this would be the case.
I was also shocked Bush didn't get a 2nd round tender because he could be our starter and another team could give him something as low as $2.5m to steal him away with no compensation or we match and pay more than the tender would have been (about $2.1 or $2.2).
Edit:
Actually with the vet minimum rule each would only cost $570,000 on the cap. So about $1.1m.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:48 pm to bonethug0108
quote:
another team could give him something as low as $2.5m to steal him away with no compensation
...will another team give him that?
It's risky, but it's essentially risking ~.4M to possibly win ~.7M, if I'm understanding correctly.
Delmas just got 3.5M max.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:48 pm to bonethug0108
LINK
There are other FB's available and there is always the possibility of finding one as an undrafted free agent.
There are other FB's available and there is always the possibility of finding one as an undrafted free agent.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:51 pm to drake20
I doubt another team gives him more but it only takes one and they know it only has to be in that range to it to make it a tough decision for us.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:57 pm to Dunk47
Austin Johnson FB 240lbs is still on the team and looked good enough last year to hang on the practice squad.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 5:59 pm to goatmilker
I'm more than fine rolling with Johnson. Collins sucked it up run and pass blocking last year.
I would like to retain Morgan given our current WR corp.
I would like to retain Morgan given our current WR corp.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 6:38 pm to goatmilker
A. Johnson is an intriguing guy.....at least from what he showed last pre-season. He didn't look as powerful as Collins but appeared to be a lot more athletic, at least to me.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 6:50 pm to blueslover
quote:
Ya'll know that Donna Douglas (Ellie Mae Clampett) lives in Pride Louisiana? Was Miss Baton Rouge & Miss New Orleans in the 50's
I met her once at Winn Dixie in Baker when I was a kid. My grandparents knew her. My Paw Paw was a preacher and she is/was (not sure now I live in Alaska) a pastor at a church in the Pride/Zachary area.
Small world.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 6:58 pm to monroesaintsfan
Johnson had a terrible pff score in the preseason.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:03 pm to Hoodoo Man
Really? How did it compare to Collin's pre-season score?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:26 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:But he was an UDFA and showed plenty of potential. So the score doesn't scare me off to what he might be able to do.
Johnson had a terrible pff score in the preseason.
Plus Collins had a terrible PFF score when the games mattered.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:44 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
I'm perfectly fine with Collins leaving.
I think you and I were the first two who agreed on this when it randomly came up.
He's a serviceable FB. We run some nice fancy sneaky plays to pick up 3rd and short with him, but everyone who has watched knows we can improve on a FB being a lead blocker.
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