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Jindal is out of touch---
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:08 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:08 am
In 07 when he ran I supported him rather enthusiastically. I contributed more cash to his election than I had to any other candidate ever. I worked two little community events with one of my neighbors.
We had him over to a little cookout we put together for him and it was there I first questioned my support of him. He came across canned, rehearsed and rather clumsy when he was off script. It was like Teepell gave him a list of talking points. He was phony too in his brand new ropers he no doubt thought our rather rural community would like. Nonetheless I thought he was going to change things.
I should have paid attention to my reservations.
In Jindal's first term he demonstrated he is no real conservative. He funded the sale of the chicken plant in Union Parish. He threw $500 million stashed in LED funds at all kinds of businesses friendly to his campaign. He hired a trial lawyer to represent the state in lawsuits against BP. He grabbed all the federal largesse he could after Gustav and BP. He supported the building of the largest state run hospital in state history. He put together a huge package of sweet deals for Tom Benson--unbelievable deals really. Our capital spending kept on going up. Of course he sweetened the film credit deals to the point of absurdity even making them cash redeemable with the State. He consolidated power in the Governor's office with his so called ethics reforms creating a powerful tool to squash political opponents. No one can claim to be a fiscal conservative and do such things.
In term two I thought he was coming around. I wanted school choice and a tightening of heretofore unlimited spending of higher ed and medicaid. He talked of ending the state income tax. It all sounded good. Real change finally. We see now it was all lip service.
Today in my junk mail is a piece Jindal supposedly has written calling out Obama over Crimea. The man has not stopped running for whatever it is he wants since he came on the scene in Louisiana. Nobody gives a darn what the governor of Louisiana thinks about Russian foreign policy.
Jindal would be far, far better off to run the state in a conservative manner and properly answer his critics. Instead he has let them define his issues and he has lost loads of political capital. He should have gone to the wall on school choice and insisted it be statewide and available to all for example. He should have pointed out to the critics of his higher education cuts that he tried to close the budget busting SUNO so other institutes would not have to endure cuts but they wouldn't let him. He should call BS on the film credits as Governors across the country are trying to do. He should grab hold of his plan to end the income tax and make the discussion loud and long. He walks off from fights too easily and ends up with no support.
We had him over to a little cookout we put together for him and it was there I first questioned my support of him. He came across canned, rehearsed and rather clumsy when he was off script. It was like Teepell gave him a list of talking points. He was phony too in his brand new ropers he no doubt thought our rather rural community would like. Nonetheless I thought he was going to change things.
I should have paid attention to my reservations.
In Jindal's first term he demonstrated he is no real conservative. He funded the sale of the chicken plant in Union Parish. He threw $500 million stashed in LED funds at all kinds of businesses friendly to his campaign. He hired a trial lawyer to represent the state in lawsuits against BP. He grabbed all the federal largesse he could after Gustav and BP. He supported the building of the largest state run hospital in state history. He put together a huge package of sweet deals for Tom Benson--unbelievable deals really. Our capital spending kept on going up. Of course he sweetened the film credit deals to the point of absurdity even making them cash redeemable with the State. He consolidated power in the Governor's office with his so called ethics reforms creating a powerful tool to squash political opponents. No one can claim to be a fiscal conservative and do such things.
In term two I thought he was coming around. I wanted school choice and a tightening of heretofore unlimited spending of higher ed and medicaid. He talked of ending the state income tax. It all sounded good. Real change finally. We see now it was all lip service.
Today in my junk mail is a piece Jindal supposedly has written calling out Obama over Crimea. The man has not stopped running for whatever it is he wants since he came on the scene in Louisiana. Nobody gives a darn what the governor of Louisiana thinks about Russian foreign policy.
Jindal would be far, far better off to run the state in a conservative manner and properly answer his critics. Instead he has let them define his issues and he has lost loads of political capital. He should have gone to the wall on school choice and insisted it be statewide and available to all for example. He should have pointed out to the critics of his higher education cuts that he tried to close the budget busting SUNO so other institutes would not have to endure cuts but they wouldn't let him. He should call BS on the film credits as Governors across the country are trying to do. He should grab hold of his plan to end the income tax and make the discussion loud and long. He walks off from fights too easily and ends up with no support.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 9:36 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:09 am to I B Freeman
People shouldn't put so much faith into politicians
Look at the people who thought Obama was "different."
Look at the people who thought Obama was "different."
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:12 am to I B Freeman
quote:In "suites"??? Seriously??
in suites
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:16 am to I B Freeman
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He came across canned, rehearsed and rather clumsy when he was off script. It was like Teepell gave him a list of talking points.
Jindal is brilliant, probably one of the sharpest politicians in the U.S. Brilliant people are often awkward in small group settings. This is a stupid critique of him.
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He hired a trial lawyer to represent the state in suites against BP. He grabbed all the federal largesse he could after Gustav and BP.
The state was harmed by BP, hiring a lawyer was the correct move. The federal funds existed for situations like Gustav. Not taking that money would have been stupid.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:20 am to goldenbadger08
U? Are you trying to say the word you?
GOAT? Are we linguistically challenged here?
I know it's your way of saying his lack of educational funding sucks.
GOAT? Are we linguistically challenged here?
I know it's your way of saying his lack of educational funding sucks.
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 9:21 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:26 am to I B Freeman
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He should have gone to the wall on school choice and insisted it be statewide and available to all for example. He should have pointed out to the critics of his higher education cuts that he tried to close the budget busting SUNO so other institutes would not have to endure cuts but they wouldn't let him. He should call BS on the film credits as Governors across the country are trying to do. He should grab hold of his plan to end the income tax and make the discussion loud and long. He walks off from fights too easily and ends up with no support.
Your expectations for politicians is out of touch.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:33 am to I B Freeman
It looks like he's trying to please everyone, and in the process pisses off everyone. My liberal friends can't stand him and think he is just pure evil. My conservative friends don't think he's conservative enough.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:38 am to I B Freeman
Well he's no Edwin Edwards.....amirite?
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:42 am to MMauler
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It looks like he's trying to please everyone, and in the process pisses off everyone. My liberal friends can't stand him and think he is just pure evil. My conservative friends don't think he's conservative enough.
Exactly.
He is not a brilliant politician. He is a stupid politician.
He, like most politicians, has no core beliefs. He takes the expedient route he deems the most politically correct.
My impression is if he thought he could get on a Presidential ticket as a communist or a democrat or whatever he would change parties tomorrow.
Today is a great example. Rand Paul is obviously a major republican force and has this message that resonates about staying out of far flung world conflicts. Instead of moving toward Paul, Jindal stays with McCain.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:51 am to I B Freeman
we get it...you hate Jindal because of the movie tax shite.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:51 am to I B Freeman
Come on, I.B. Everyone on this board knows that if you don't like Bobby Jindal or have any criticisms of him, you're either a teacher, state employee or liberal.
So which are you?
So which are you?
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:54 am to ragincajun03
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Everyone on this board known that if you don't like Bobby Jindal or have any criticisms of him, you're either a teacher, state employee or liberal.
Duh
Posted on 3/10/14 at 9:59 am to I B Freeman
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Exactly.
He is not a brilliant politician. He is a stupid politician.
He, like most politicians, has no core beliefs. He takes the expedient route he deems the most politically correct.
Or, maybe, he just looks at each issue to try to decide in his own mind what is right and what is wrong, and doesn't worry about which "side" he's pissing off.
You mentioned the hospital complex in New Orleans. That was an extraordinary situation given the involvement of FEMA. Here, we have a shot to get one of the leading hospital research institutions in the world, with both private and public funding coming in for years to come. The health professional experts AND MONEY that this complex could bring may be one of the biggest boon to hit Louisiana EVER. And, yet you want him to oppose it because it means the state may have to spend some money up front and, according to you, that's not "conservative"?
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My impression is if he thought he could get on a Presidential ticket as a communist or a democrat or whatever he would change parties tomorrow.
My God, this is the absolute PERFECT description of Bill Clinton. He vetoed Republican bills (welfare reform, balanced budget, etc.) several times. Then, because Dick Morris told him he had to sign them because it was a reelection year, he finally signed them. He didn't like them and some in his party were pissed, but he signed them STRICTLY because it was a reelection year.
Then, when trying to reinvent a "legacy" for himself, he took full credit for these Republican initiatives.
And, yet, if you go read the string on if people would vote for Clinton or Bush, you have all of these MORONS proudly proclaiming their support for this impeached slimebag who clearly, as you put it, had "no core beliefs."
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:00 am to MMauler
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It looks like he's trying to please everyone, and in the process pisses off everyone. My liberal friends can't stand him and think he is just pure evil. My conservative friends don't think he's conservative enough.
This is a pretty fair assessment. His entire tenure seems to be outwardly focused. The quintessential question of his administration seems to be "how will this be perceived by the rnc?"
In doing that, he often shot for being as inoffensive as possible while building his national resume with bullet point reforms. The problem is, rather than focusing on those reforms, he focused on the public perception of those reforms in the national spotlight rather than their substance.
Doesn't his resume look great? He balanced the budget without raising taxes, fought to end the income tax, initiated ethics reforms, initiated a school voucher program, and fought to streamline higher education in his state. However, if you scratch past the surface, you find the shiny ironclad resume is rusted through.
He payed for recurring expenses with one time money to balance the budget, he proposed ending the income tax without a workable plan to replace the lost revenue, his ethics reforms exempted his own office and do more to punish opposition than to combat any corruption, his school voucher plan has been repeatedly ruled unconstitutional, and he failed in streamlining education and simply took a cleaver to higher ed funding. The suno merger was a colossal failure which ended any further attempts at reform. He also didn't place any restrictions on what higher ed could cut from their budgets nor did he attempt to reform the bloated leadership structure of our university systems. He just let the universities cut that which would upset the most people (upkeep, instructor salaries, and reduce offered sections of classes) making him look like an anti-intellectual baffoon.
The best description of Jindal's tenure as Louisiana's governor was spoken by George Washington in his critiques of the Articles of Confederation. Jindal is "a shadow without substance."
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:08 am to kingbob
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The best description of Jindal's tenure as Louisiana's governor was spoken by George Washington in his critiques of the Articles of Confederation. Jindal is "a shadow without substance."
Bravo, sir. Bravo.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:10 am to Oenophile Brah
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Your expectations for politicians is out of touch.
This.
Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:19 am to Choctaw
Note that i didn't talk about his record on economic development. In that regard, he has been a great success, putting him in the discussion as possibly the best governor this state has ever had. However, that is not high praise for Bobby Jindal nearly as much as it is an absolute indictment of so many of the men who came before him.
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