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Remember the attacks on those asserting that "12 Years A Slave" won...

Posted on 3/7/14 at 10:52 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 10:52 am
because of race?

Perhaps there's a basis for the argument

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The film's distributor anchored its awards campaign around the line "It's time," easily interpreted as an attempt to exhort members of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences into voting for the movie because it was the right thing to do.


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All the same, two Oscar voters privately admitted that they didn't see "12 Years a Slave," thinking it would be upsetting. But they said they voted for it anyway because, given the film's social relevance, they felt obligated to do so.

Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 10:58 am to
Or maybe it won because it was the best picture among the group of nominations.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66342 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:00 am to
I think certain subjects are more likely to win the award than others.

Slavery
The Holocaust

Are just more moving subjects than a lot of things, and movies about them tend to be extremely moving which is what Oscar voters look for. Also social relevance sure.

Personally i like comedies, so i think the Oscars are just horses hit all around.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32640 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:01 am to
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Or maybe it won because it was the best picture among the group of nominations.


Apparently not everyone felt that way
Two Oscar Voters Picked '12 Years A Slave' Without Watching It

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The surprising revelation comes via the Los Angeles Times: "All the same, two Oscar voters privately admitted that they didn't see '12 Years a Slave,' thinking it would be upsetting. But they said they voted for it anyway because, given the film's social relevance, they felt obligated to do so."
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Or maybe it won because it was the best picture among the group of nominations.

i know you are used to providing nothing to this board, but do you really think it was necessary to post the above when there is a direct quote in the OP of two people voting for a film they admit to not seeing? come on man.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16336 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:06 am to
I thought "lone Survivor" was pretty good to.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126942 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:06 am to
quote:

two Oscar voters privately admitted that they didn't see '12 Years a Slave,' thinking it would be upsetting. But they said they voted for it anyway because, given the film's social relevance, they felt obligated to do so."
You would think there would be some type of formal or informal requirement that a voter would have to see all of the nominated movies in order to be able to cast a vote at all.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:10 am to
quote:

I think certain subjects are more likely to win the award than others.


The Academy tends to pick dramatic films over other genres.

I doubt that two voters swung the nomination toward 12 Years a Slave.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:10 am to
quote:

but do you really think it was necessary to post the above when there is a direct quote in the OP of two people voting for a film they admit to not seeing? come on man.


Can't really put much stock into a "direct quote" when its private.

Not saying it didn't happen, but not much to confirm that this actually did.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58543 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:13 am to
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Not saying it didn't happen, but not much to confirm that this actually did.


You're trying too hard.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:14 am to
there are 6000 voting members. I do agree that the subject weighed heavily on the voting.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32640 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Can't really put much stock into a "direct quote" when its private


You think 2 voters, separately, would lie about the same thing?

What benefit do they have in saying this if it's not true?
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Can't really put much stock into a "direct quote" when its private.

Not saying it didn't happen, but not much to confirm that this actually did.


im sure you hold all "anonymous" quotes to the same level of scrutiny.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:16 am to
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I doubt that two voters swung the nomination toward 12 Years a Slave.
I agree......as long as voter fraud doesn't change the outcome it's no big deal.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:17 am to
And the Right wing constantly bashes Hollywood as irrelevant in our 'political' lives , but the poli board is now concerned with the Oscars?

They actually care about who wins Hollywood's most prestigious award?


Sorry the film isn't revisionist drivel Southerners (Right wingers) would prefer.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 11:19 am
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7674 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:19 am to
did you see it?

or, are you just continuing a racist thought b/c you are racist?
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:19 am to
quote:

You think 2 voters, separately, would lie about the same thing?

What benefit do they have in saying this if it's not true?


All I am saying is that it would be really easy for anyone to report that they had direct quotes from two individuals that would rather remain anonymous.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:24 am to
quote:


All I am saying is that it would be really easy for anyone to report that they had direct quotes from two individuals that would rather remain anonymous.

why would the LA Times do that?
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:26 am to
quote:

why would the LA Times do that?


Why not name the voters? Pretty in depth article not too. Clearly someone knows who they are.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98453 posts
Posted on 3/7/14 at 11:26 am to
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did you see it? or, are you just continuing a racist thought b/c you are racist?


Next time, try "when did you stop beating your wife?"

Dumbass.

I freely admit I did not see ANY of the nominated films, so I can't speak to whether 12YAS was, or wasn't, deserving. I only posted this because anyone that dared broach the subject on TD Sunday night/Monday morning was automatically branded a racist (sort of like you implied in your post)
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