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New Commish wants 2 and Through instead of One and Done
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:23 pm
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New NBA Commissioner Adam Silver has said numerous times that increasing that age limit to 20 years old and two years removed from high school is a top agenda item for him once the NBA Players’ Association hires a replacement director. During the last round of labor talks, the NBA pushed hard for a 20-year age restriction only to agree to table that topic in efforts to get the 2011 NBA lockout lifted.
Silver was asked by acclaimed writer Malcolm Gladwell during a one-on-one panel discussion, that hypothetically, if he could make any change in the league and that change would be wholly endorsed and approved by both the players and the owners, what would he change? With a few moments of deliberation, the Commissioner said changing the age limit.
Of all the things he could consider changing, the age limit was the top item in his mind.
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:33 pm to TigerinATL
they need to just do it like baseball and develop the NBADL as a farm system.
you either come out straight from HS, or you stay in college or overseas 3 years or until you're 21, whichever comes first.
you either come out straight from HS, or you stay in college or overseas 3 years or until you're 21, whichever comes first.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:34 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
I would love to see this pass
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:36 pm to TigerinATL
As long as they don't come back in a few years and make it 3 and free or 4 and no more.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:38 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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I don't see this passing
If the players union is smart they certainly wouldn't approve this before the next CBA. But the current CBA has an opt out in 2017, the year after the national TV contract gets renewed, and that will be a good opportunity to sell out college kids to get current players more money.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:38 pm to Fleur de Diable
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As long as they don't come back in a few years and make it 3 and free or 4 and no more.
Nice.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:39 pm to Fleur de Diable
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As long as they don't come back in a few years and make it 3 and free or 4 and no more.
Damn, I was going to say as long as they can make it rhyme, it will probably pass, but that just got thrown out of the window...
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 12:50 pm to TigerinATL
There is absolutely no reason for players to be against this as it won't affect them at all.
It will completely screw up one draft lottery though.
It would have been perfect for last draft class as it already sucked so bad.
It will completely screw up one draft lottery though.
It would have been perfect for last draft class as it already sucked so bad.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:02 pm to TigerinATL
Mark Cuban touched on this the other day
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The outspoken Dallas Mavericks owner said he can envision scenarios where the country’s top basketball prospects would get drafted and play in the D-League rather than spend one season at an NCAA school.
Cuban said there’s no reason for a player to attend college as a freshman “because he’s not going to class, he’s actually not even able to take advantage of all the fun because the first semester he starts playing basketball.”
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:07 pm to WB504
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Cuban said there’s no reason for a player to attend college as a freshman “because he’s not going to class, he’s actually not even able to take advantage of all the fun because the first semester he starts playing basketball.”
That option is available now but kids don't do it. Why?
College groupies >>>>>>>> DLeague groupies
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:08 pm to Colonel Flagg
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There is absolutely no reason for players to be against this as it won't affect them at all.
That's short sighted.
1- Guys they are holding back will one day be members of their union. Why disregard what will be a future member?
2- There's no reason to believe this helps the NBA game in any on the court way. It certainly helps the NCAA, which is a great reason NOT to do it. For all the free marketing, CBB is still a conpetitor for ratings and $. Why strengthen an enemy?
3- Age limit increase can hurt total salary payout. Rookies can be controlled for up to 8 years. Starting the UFA clock at 27 instead of 28/29 allows for greater earning potential.
Now if they actually beef up the DLeague to every franchise and increase the salaries for players, I can handle a 20 year age limit for guys that choose college instead of a legitimate other option to the NBA. Once you're in the DLeague, teams can call you up whenever they want
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:11 pm to corndeaux
What's the average salary for a D-leaguer?
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:31 pm to Gtothemoney
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Salaries remain flat: $25,500, $19,000 and $13,000 for the league's three player classifications, which means D-League players are virtually playing for free -- and a modest per diem on the road of $40 compared to $120 in the NBA -- although they do receive housing and insurance benefits.
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Not much to consider if you've got a full ride from a major conference D1 school.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:33 pm to corndeaux
Yeah, I can't pass up a free ride for that money.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:38 pm to corndeaux
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There's no reason to believe this helps the NBA game in any on the court way
More data = Fewer busts by dumb GMs. It won't help the Spurs win more, but it might help the cellar dwellers suck less and teams not wasting money on poor performing assets is a good thing for the league in general. No one buys a ticket to see the Hasheem Thabeets play.
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It certainly helps the NCAA, which is a great reason NOT to do it.
The free NCAA farm system is a symbiotic relationship. Strengthening the NCAA also improves its ability to deliver players with built in marketing. How many of us here became Magic fans because of Shaq. I bet that number is much less if Shaq was one and done. I don't see them as a ratings competitor at all, because "Sweeps Week" the broadcast time that matters, is very different for both. Also, much like a shopping mall where direct competitors often both prosper because you attract more willing shoppers than you could on your own, I would bet the link between the NCAA and NBA increases viewership much more than it cannibalizes it. Again, see the Shaq example.
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3- Age limit increase can hurt total salary payout. Rookies can be controlled for up to 8 years. Starting the UFA clock at 27 instead of 28/29 allows for greater earning potential.
This will be the only one that matters to the players and agents. And like I said, I expect this to be an issue they trade for cash in the next CBA negotiation.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:39 pm to Gtothemoney
3 and Free would be much better for the NBA and college ball.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 1:46 pm to TigerinATL
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This will be the only one that matters to the players and agents. And like I said, I expect this to be an issue they trade for cash in the next CBA negotiation.
The same number of NBA players and the same NBA budget will still be there regardless of the age limit.
I really don't see why this is going to matter to the current players who will vote on it. It would improve the league to allow the prospects to potentially mature some in college. It will also prevent kids who might not be true NBA material throwing away a good college education to be a D-League bust. There is also the college basketball marketing of these NBA players.
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