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What is Putin's end game? What is his best possibly scenario?
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:28 am
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:28 am
I'm confused. I feel like he's acting as if this is 200 years ago, where if a country could occupy another country by force, it becomes theirs. It's odd that he's just completely ignoring the repercussions of other nations/UN/NATO etc.
Where does he expect this to end?
Where does he expect this to end?
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:37 am to OaklandFire
you already answered it:
The glorified thoughts you had about the UN or Obama, well frick them.
quote:
it becomes theirs
The glorified thoughts you had about the UN or Obama, well frick them.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:41 am to OaklandFire
for me....watching the Ukraine fall into Russian hands is equivalent to watching a mosquito hawk snatch a mosquito in mid flight.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:42 am to OaklandFire
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What is Putin's end game? What is his best possibly scenario?
"Finders keepers, losers weepers."
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:44 am to OaklandFire
He wants some control over Crimea and the East and to make sure Kiev considers Russian interests going forward, but not a take over of the country.
But he's a thug Mafioso at the top of a kleptocracy so who knows...he may just poison the entire Ukrainian government.
But he's a thug Mafioso at the top of a kleptocracy so who knows...he may just poison the entire Ukrainian government.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:44 am to OaklandFire
quote:
I feel like he's acting as if this is 200 years ago
b/c thats what he believes in Russia should be.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:46 am to OaklandFire
quote:
What is Putin's end game?
IMO, he's already accomplishing it.
He's debasing American global strength and standing at every turn by continually exposing what a team of absolute fricking amateurs we have running things here.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:49 am to cwill
quote:He will still move to take over the slice of Ukraine along Russia's western border that is primarily populated by ethnic Russians. That area also happens to be the industrial/manufacturing area of Ukraine....steel manufacturing mills, large equipment manufacturers, etc.
but not a take over of the country.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:50 am to OaklandFire
If he's like most Russians we don't know his end move yet and it will be something no one predicted.
Good chess players the Russians
Good chess players the Russians
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:51 am to LSURussian
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He will still move to take over the slice of Ukraine along Russia's western border that is primarily populated by ethnic Russians.
Does the word "Sudetenland" ring any bells.
And in our corner...Neville Chamberlain 2.0.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:51 am to LSURussian
Russian fleet gives Ukraine forces in Crimea 0300 GMT ultimatum to surrender (Interfax)
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:54 am to Godfather1
Anschluss of Austria = Crimean takeover
Sudetenland = Eastern Ukraine takeover
Sudetenland = Eastern Ukraine takeover
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:55 am to Godfather1
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He's debasing American global strength and standing at every turn by continually exposing what a team of absolute fricking amateurs we have running things here.
this * 1000 bosses
the libs in their race to morally equivocate, forget that evil is not equal across the countries nor their leaders.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:55 am to Jbird
quote:This gives John Kerry another opportunity to use his "gravely concerned" face.
Russian fleet gives Ukraine forces in Crimea 0300 GMT ultimatum to surrender (Interfax)
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:57 am to Godfather1
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Does the word "Sudetenland" ring any bells. And in our corner...Neville Chamberlain 2.0.
Should we put troops on the ground?
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:57 am to LSURussian
quote:Lurch looking serious.
This gives John Kerry another opportunity to use his "gravely concerned" face.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 9:57 am to LSURussian
Seems like also Putin wants control of natural gas lines feeding into Europe. Prior to the LNG train startups around the world along with the shale gas output in North America Russia was dominating the European gas market. Russia was in a position to set the price for much of Europe. With less control over gas supply now it seems like Ukraine would be a strategic target for Gazprom. I also saw where the Ukraine owes Gazprom over 3 Billion in back gas payments as it is, and Russian banks are owed the money.
Posted on 3/3/14 at 10:01 am to OaklandFire
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It's odd that he's just completely ignoring the repercussions of other nations/UN/NATO etc.
And what "repercussions" would that be? A stern finger wagging?
Posted on 3/3/14 at 10:04 am to LSURussian
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This gives John Kerry another opportunity to use his "gravely concerned" face.
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'd.Posted on 3/3/14 at 10:07 am to OaklandFire
Looks like Putin got a few karate licks in....
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