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Bitcoin is nothing more than "white privilege"

Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:24 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:24 pm
ThinkProgress, mothefrickers

(original article taken from this reason.com article, which i haven't read as of the posting of this OP)

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According to an online poll from Simulacrum, the average user is a 32.1-year-old libertarian male. By users’ accounts, those men are mostly white.


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Breaking that down, about 95 percent of Bitcoin users are men, about 61 percent say they’re not religious, and about 44 percent describe themselves as “libertarian / anarcho-capitalist.”


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Those libertarian tendencies are generally held by white men. “Compared to the general population,” an American Values survey reported last year, “libertarians are significantly more likely to be non-Hispanic white, male, and young.” Specifically, 94 percent are white, and 68 percent are men.


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Why does Bitcoin specifically have this demographic makeup? Well, there’s a fair amount of privilege built directly into the currency: In order to buy the sometimes wildly expensive currency, Bitcoin users need to be wealthy. And they can afford to put their wealth into a currency that isn’t widely accepted or even recognized. Plus, they move easily through the financial and digital space — the process of “mining” bitcoins demands it; it is all about knowing coding and decryption and how to use an exchange. The sum total of these things — advanced knowledge of computer science, wealth — are also markings of the young, white male.


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But they’re not the only ones who are operating outside of our enshrined banking system. Other groups, the demographic opposites of the Bitcoin crowd, are doing the same. The clinical terminology for those people is the “unbanked” — they rely on informal, instead of formalized, systems of trading or borrowing capital. Why? The unbanked, comprised of women and people of color, are much more frequently turned down for auto loans, mortgages, and investment advice. Or, when they go into formalized systems, the government isn’t there to protect them. Instead, they’re taken advantage of by unregulated banking — unbanked households on average spend over $2,400, about 10 percent of their income, to use services like payday lending and check cashing.


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Bitcoin users reject the premise of a currency backed by the government entirely, while communities of color that participate in sou-sous are simply shut out from the system that exists and still rely on our country’s currency. But the question stands as to why Bitcoin doesn’t reflect the ranks of the unbanked at all. Why isn’t the crypto-currency of the future taking hold among communities other than the elite?


Is Ignoance of Technology a soceital tax?

but it's not ignorance...it's...SYSTEMS

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Bitcoin users’ rejection of the government reflects the luxury of being able to live well without state support,

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the less advantaged desperately need a larger government role in the banking system to help them them overcome deep, systemic bias.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:28 pm to
Well yeah....
It's like the EBT card of the white Libertarian set.
You lack Austrian Street Cred over at the Von Mises Club if you don't have your Bitcoins.
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:32 pm to
That last quote...

Jesus tap dancing Christ
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 4:33 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:33 pm to
that quote is the biggest answer to the question of this thread LINK
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:36 pm to
just read the reason article

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I could close by making the argument that attacking Bitcoin is clearly and obviously just for insanely privileged and wealthy westerners on the side of the most rich and powerful force in the world, the U.S. government and U.S. banking and finance interests, a crummy game for those who think that cheap and easy remittances to the third world, workarounds for bank or credit card company attempts to punish people, and cheap and easy microcredit or microcharity, are less important than scoring points off your ideological foes, but I'm not that type.


Posted by BayouBandit24
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:39 pm to
You can make almost anything into being racist. It's incredibly simple.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:44 pm to
my thread from the past that i linked is very raw and unrefined, but it had no racial overtones whatsoever

however, those of a certain ilk take these societal "taxes", which are nothing more than increased costs associated with ignorance and/or bad decision making (which i guess ignorance falls under). "privilege" is failing to make these bad decisions almost every time

you take progressives of other ilks, like let's say environmentalism or healthy eating. the smugness that comes from their perceived superior choices are nothing more than examples of their own "privilege"
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:50 pm to
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Plus, they move easily through the financial and digital space — the process of “mining” bitcoins demands it; it is all about knowing coding and decryption and how to use an exchange. The sum total of these things — advanced knowledge of computer science, wealth — are also markings of the young, white male.
That's more racist than anything bitcoin traders ever thought about being. The author is basically saying that black people aren't smart enough to have the technical knowledge to acquire bitcoins, or that the knowledge can only be received from an expensive university.

These people are fricking idiots who think they're elites. It's hilarious and depressing at the same time.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:53 pm to
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that quote is the biggest answer to the question of this thread LINK
Yep. That's the end game. The message is that systemic unfairness hurts minorities, and the "system" needs to be replaced. Same tired argument, every time.
Posted by TigerTattle
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 4:58 pm to
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The sum total of these things — advanced knowledge of computer science, wealth — are also markings of the young, white male.
Could it be because those specific young, white males made a commitment toward learning about computer science and wealth because they wanted to be able to make money?

I think it must be, since I know plenty of young white males who are in the same boat as the "unfortunates" noted in the article. They didn't bother to learn the ropes, either.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:02 pm to
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Could it be because those specific young, white males made a commitment toward learning about computer science and wealth because they wanted to be able to make money?

no

minorities are denied opportunities in this arena due to the system. nothing more
Posted by ClydeFrog
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:02 pm to
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advanced knowledge of computer science, wealth — are also markings of the young, white male.


Yeah, I wish.

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the less advantaged desperately need a larger government role in the banking system to help them them overcome deep, systemic bias.


Posted by CITWTT
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:14 pm to
I am curious as to how our little cadre of buyers have reacted to the shutting down of one bit coin site. I asked one of them a while back what was the mechanism to secure the value of them and it seems now they really don't have shite to hold the investment.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:16 pm to
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the process of “mining” bitcoins demands it; it is all about knowing coding and decryption and how to use an exchange



So they are basically saying the other races are too dumb to figure this out??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:17 pm to
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So they are basically saying the other races are too dumb to figure this out??

yes, but no it's institutions

i believe we have a black poster who is a phd in computer science. i'd love to hear his opinion on this
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:29 pm to
I love this thread so much.

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i believe we have a black poster who is a phd in computer science. i'd love to hear his opinion on this


Lordguill?
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:30 pm to
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But they’re not the only ones who are operating outside of our enshrined banking system. Other groups, the demographic opposites of the Bitcoin crowd, are doing the same. The clinical terminology for those people is the “unbanked” — they rely on informal, instead of formalized, systems of trading or borrowing capital. Why? The unbanked, comprised of women and people of color, are much more frequently turned down for auto loans, mortgages, and investment advice.


So what's the writer's point here? He/she seems to be arguing that multiple demographics work around government systems. Of course, the writer seems to stop short of insinuating that swap meets favor people of color.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:30 pm to
yeah i think so
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:34 pm to
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He/she seems to be arguing that multiple demographics work around government systems.

they pay the tax of ignorance

bitcoin users, through their privilege, get the benefits of technology

if only there was more government, then BTC users would pay more in a different sort of tax, and those demographics posted about would be protected from making bad decis....er, institutions
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/1/14 at 5:48 pm to
Just wait until they hang making money from investing in stocks as "white privilege" too.






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