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Hunting Jack Russel Terrier - Bored at Work Topic

Posted on 2/28/14 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21658 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 2:31 pm
Sometime down the road, I'm thinking of adding a dog to my hawking team. Right now, I'm leaning heavily toward a Jack Russel. They're very popular with falconers who hunt rabbits and squirrels.

Just wondering if any of you have any experience with the breed. I know they're very high energy. They get mixed reviews in the home. Some of the falconers say they're great at home. I'm guessing these are the guys that get them out hunting a lot and keep that energy worked off.

Anyway, I need a dog that will get in the brush and flush out rabbits, but not run them into the next county. The lack of bawling is also a plus for me. I'd also like them to help out with the squirrels.

Any of you guys ever used one for hunting? If I ever do get one, I'd do with a proven hunting line.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 2:42 pm
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 2:36 pm to
I've gone squirrel hunting with them before, and they seem to do pretty good. I think one would be perfect for what you want. Jack Russel's are one of the more common breeds in shelters due to their high energy, unless you work them everyday they get psychotic pretty easily.
Posted by bonescanner
Member since Oct 2011
2234 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 2:38 pm to
brother in law has two. The only dogs I know that will stay outside for 8 hours and hold it till they get back in their crate. Then shite all over the place. He say's they are known for that behavior and very hard to train.
house train I mean.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21658 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 2:43 pm to
Well, that's not a ringing endorsement.
Posted by warr09
Georgia by way of Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
800 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 2:45 pm to
I have a female chihuahua that does the holding until crate bs. Ready to club her in the head.

To OP, my friend growing up had a JR that was a great squirrel dog. Also had a mutt that turned out to be the best all around tracking dog. They also used to use another breed, I think it was a feist or spitz (brown hair, looked like a big pomeranian) that turned out to be a great squirrel/rabbit dog but its fur collected all sorta of vegetation when running through the woods.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21658 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 2:48 pm to
Y'all are scaring me with the dog shite stories. I'm not a fan of dumb little dogs anyway - I have a doberman, and my last dog was a german shepherd. Both are/were incredibly smart. My wife has an old mini-schnauzer that has the intelligence of a cinder block. I've been reading that JRT's are highly intelligent and trainable which is one of the things that has me even considering this.
Posted by StreamsOfWhiskey
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jun 2013
570 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 2:51 pm to
Have had a JRT now for the last 10.5 years. His name is Roscoe and weighs about 12 - 13 lbs. So far he's almost killed my parent's Chihuahua. He tore right through the rectum of my parent's Fox Terrier (about 50 lbs), and did the same to my parent's 110 lb lab. Most of the time he gets along with them, but out of nowhere, he'll snap and you literally cannot pry that dog's jaws open. He's mean, but most of the time he's really laid back and mellow. He's very high strung and suffers from separation anxiety. He's the only dog we've ever had that will not take to a kennel. I remember one night when he was a puppy he barked and yelped for 8 straight hours in that kennel. Most dogs would have eventually gotten tired and fallen asleep. Not him, he's persistent and stubborn.

Would definitely NOT get another JRT in my lifetime. And if it wasn't for the obligation I feel to care for him, we'd have gotten rid of him years ago. The previous poster's thoughts about them going nuts I think may be what his issue is.

You get a lot of dog when you buy a small JRT. In their mind, they weigh about 200 lbs of solid muscle and are really not afraid of anything.

As far as the good:
He's great with my girls.
He's very loyal and an excellent watchdog.
He's never attacked my other dog which is smaller than he is.
Most of the time he's pretty mellow.
Loves to retrieve and throw the ball.
Loves to take walks.
He's completely house/potty trained.
He's obedient unless he's tearing a dog a new one.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 2:57 pm to
My bro in law's folks have one and the bitch is crazy. Within minutes of being in the yard she has located and killed something.
Posted by warr09
Georgia by way of Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
800 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 3:02 pm to
I have a friend now that has a female along with two pugs. The pugs are laid back. I went over to let their dogs out to use the bathroom and give them their medicine while said friends were in Italy......holy crap. She was in a wire kennel. She had shredded all the carpet under her kennel tgrough the pad to the floor in a rental apartment. They are definitely super high strung and energetic. Just check the parents if you get one. Any dog can be trained. That is what bothers me with our chuhuahua, she was potty trained. The bitch must have forgotten.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94798 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Teague
This is a serious question, wouldnt there be a high probability your Hawk would pick up the terrier?
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 3:13 pm to
I was thinking the bird would at the very least try to

Posted by JoePepitone
Waffle House #1494
Member since Feb 2014
10549 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 4:27 pm to
A friend of mine has owned various terrier breeds for years. She acquired a JRT a couple of years ago and has yet to mold him into shape. She says most terriers have attitude and other undesirable tendencies but can be trained to behave. To date, her JRT shows no inclination toward becoming anything near to what she expects.
Posted by thelsutigers
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2009
3443 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:17 pm to
I have a JRT and he is awesome. He does kill stuff in the yard consistently. He will lay in the backyard near the fence and when a bird lands in the yard he jumps when they try to take off and knocks them against the fence, which dazes them. He then commences to tearing them a new one.

Mine does have separation anxiety but is a good loyal dog that is great with kids and kills stuff.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10166 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:21 pm to
I have had several and have 2 now. They are great yard dogs and are not scared of nothing. They are snake killing machines. They don't do well inside because the tear shite up. Very smart dogs.

Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23959 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:25 pm to
My sister has one. He's fairly laid back these days. Doesn't tear up too much of anything. Somehow I think he calmed down and got lazy. Though, he is crazy at times and has killed a cat and who knows what else in his time. He is definitely not trained for anything, but he wasn't all that difficult to house train as far as I remember. He's a protector of his "sister" mutt as well as my mom's mini-Schnauzer. He isn't afraid of much, just an uncle of ours that was there for a traumatic experience in his early life. Ha. But that's a fear to where he would likely try to kill said uncle if he couldn't run away from him.

I'm sure they would make a good hunting dog with the proper training and owner.

My only criticism of the breed is that he sheds like mad. A constant stream of white hair falls off of him. All the food he eats must go directly to fur production.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 5:29 pm
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:03 pm to
I've had two Jack Russells. I don't know what posessed me to try again. When trying to house train the first one, when I left for work I put him in a pen that was around 3 1/2 ft. high with newspaper on the floor. When I came home, there was shite-covered torn up newspaper all over the room, and some was like 10-15 feet outside the pen. Dog was still in the pen. I have no idea how the paper made it that far. This was around 18 years ago and it still baffles me. He ended up outside pretty quickly. I guess I felt guilty, so about 10 years later I got another, read the books, etc. Could not train him for anything. Ended up outside, but I think he actually enjoyed it. His attention span was under 5 minutes when we'd go outside to play with him.
I will say this though - If I could actually train one, there is no dog I'd rather have. Amazingly athletic and so freaking fun to play with.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9449 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 7:20 pm to
A good friend of mine was relocated to Syracuse, NY for work. I'm not going to go into a "Syracuse sucks" rant, but it was difficult for him and really difficult for his wife. So, in a moment of good intention, but poor judgment, he bought his wife a JRT. She'd had one as a child and had fond nemories, so he thought it'd make her feel better about living in a place like Syracuse. Predictably, mayhem ensued...

(As you already know, JRT's are intelligent and high energy.) The dog is super smart, but is crazy as a shithouse rat. She's actually a very lovable dog and can be very calm, especially as she's gotten older, but also goes apeshit if anyone rattles their keys or opens the front door.

Anyway, I can't emphasize how smart this dog is. With the proper training, assuming JRT's are receptive to training, I'd think you could teach a JRT to do anything.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21658 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:06 pm to
Holy crap, I expected SOME negative stories but that's about all y'all have about them. Were any of these dogs from hunting lines and used for hunting? The hawking guys were a little more positive about the breed, although there were a couple of people who weren't fans.


quote:

This is a serious question, wouldnt there be a high probability your Hawk would pick up the terrier?


Not likely. There can be skirmishes, but it's unusual with most hawks.
Posted by HeadedToTheWoods
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Dec 2013
1039 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 10:24 pm to
My JR that got killed a couple of years ago was the best dog u could have. I've seen her hold it 24 hours. She was tough to train thru about 8/9 months but after that it was gravy. I'd get them fixed if u want to calm them down. And talk about smart
Hunting wise she could have been good. Just comes natural
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41032 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:05 pm to
Mine was protective to the point we had to get rid of him. He snipped a couple of my kids' friends when they were over to play. He was very aggressive toward anyone besides us.
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