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What is the direction of the Marvel movies?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:04 pm
Just watched Thor 2 and enjoyed it. BDT at the end was surprise. Get you that Marvel contract and you have a few movies guaranteed. Also, who puts Kat Denning in a movie and show no cleavage at all? Anyways, I haven't read up too much and it is more fun to talk about it here. Are they going towards the first time or the second time Thanos put the Infinity Gems together? I am more familiar with the 90's crossover where he destroyed half of all life.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:14 pm to jmarto1
Actually he didn't destroy half of all life. He made half disappear then proceeded to beat the shite out of the other half if I remember correctly.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 10:20 pm to Ibleedblackandgold
You're right, he pretty much erases them and then turns all the super heroes to stone.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:02 pm to jmarto1
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What is the direction of the Marvel movies?
I think the success of Guardians of the Galaxy will tell Marvel where it can go from here.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:07 pm to jmarto1
The problem with the individual Avenger movies is that it makes no sense whatsoever that they portray perilous events that the individual Avenger deals with in their own movie with no help from the other Avengers.
It's stupid.
It's stupid.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:12 pm to Scoop
Um, if they're all busy dealing with their own shite how are they going to have time to help anyone else?
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:17 pm to Scoop
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The problem with the individual Avenger movies is that it makes no sense whatsoever that they portray perilous events that the individual Avenger deals with in their own movie with no help from the other Avengers.
You have to think outside of reality.
I just go with the zone defense explanation. Different zones for different heroes
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:19 pm to Scoop
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The problem with the individual Avenger movies is that it makes no sense whatsoever that they portray perilous events that the individual Avenger deals with in their own movie with no help from the other Avengers.
It's stupid.
Why is this such a big damn deal? I don't get it???
It's like a slight, minuscule suspension of disbelief. Maybe Thor and Jane are on vacation in Asgard? Maybe Iron Man is banging the next 12 calendar models. It's happened in comics for decades, just let it go.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:20 pm to The Eric
Only cataclysmic events summon them together.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:29 pm to Freauxzen
I could see a Thor, Iron Man or Captain America movie in which they handle a bank over-draft or a problem with a contractor on their own, but sorry.
You can't let it pass that there are individual movies with high stakes scenarios where no other Avengers come to help.
I know it is a money thing, but it is way too implausible to get past.
You can't let it pass that there are individual movies with high stakes scenarios where no other Avengers come to help.
I know it is a money thing, but it is way too implausible to get past.
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:32 pm to Scoop
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The problem with the individual Avenger movies is that it makes no sense whatsoever that they portray perilous events that the individual Avenger deals with in their own movie with no help from the other Avengers.
It's stupid.
The timeline of Phase 1 shows that most of the events happen in the same week. So more than likely, that's what explains it for Phase 2 as well.
LINK to zoom in
Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:34 pm to Scoop
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I could see a Thor, Iron Man or Captain America movie in which they handle a bank over-draft or a problem with a contractor on their own, but sorry.
You can't let it pass that there are individual movies with high stakes scenarios where no other Avengers come to help.
I know it is a money thing, but it is way too implausible to get past.
Honestly, I WOULDN'T want to see them in every movie together, that might get old. Winter Soldier looks to take Caps unique predicament and let it be about him. Same for Thor 2, which was extremely successful. It's just storytelling, and effective storytelling and world creation at that.
Look how stubborn most are, just think before every solo film that the character says, "Don't worry I got this." I mean, they are rarely "alone" Thor has Asgardians, Cap has Falcon, Widow and SHIELD, Iron Man has War Machine, etc. Maybe this all happens at or around the same time.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 3:44 am to Freauxzen
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Why is this such a big damn deal? I don't get it???
It's really not. I don't even have the energy to debate it anymore.
If you have this opinion, than these types of films are definitely not for you. Its just that simple.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:54 am to jmarto1
More generally, they kind of seem to be stratifying the "big guns" ie: the Avengers especially Cap, IM, Thor and Hulk, from the street level heroes.
I saw yesterday (wish I could find a link) that they are going to do a "Defenders" in conjction with Netflix that includes Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones and Daredevil. (not sure I like the idea of a Netflix specific endeavor - I hated that the fairly recent Avengers cartoon was limited to some third level Disney channel).
It would be nice to see some interaction between the two groups - maybe Black Widow or Cap interacting with the Defenders.
I saw yesterday (wish I could find a link) that they are going to do a "Defenders" in conjction with Netflix that includes Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones and Daredevil. (not sure I like the idea of a Netflix specific endeavor - I hated that the fairly recent Avengers cartoon was limited to some third level Disney channel).
It would be nice to see some interaction between the two groups - maybe Black Widow or Cap interacting with the Defenders.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 9:12 am to Scoop
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The problem with the individual Avenger movies is that it makes no sense whatsoever that they portray perilous events that the individual Avenger deals with in their own movie with no help from the other Avengers.
It's stupid.
Its been a part of comics for decades. I remember Kang taking over the country in a year long arc in Avengers, and it was never even referenced in the other Marvel books.
Posted on 2/28/14 at 10:00 am to Freauxzen
At the end of the first Avengers movie, didn't Fury say that the Avengers all went their separate ways and that he didn't have a way to contact all of them? Then Hill asked what happens when we need them, and Fury said something to the effect of it was his belief that they would be there when the world needed them the most? I think that is close to what was said.
So it is entirely possible that getting in touch with Banner (whose probably in some 3rd world country) and Thor (who was back in Asgard) is darn near impossible, and Tony is probably still pissed at Fury/Shield for what went down in the Avengers movie. And the events in Thor 2 basically happened away from earth, so Thor didn't have time or the resources to gather them together. And I don't think the events in Iron Man 3 warranted the other Avengers (and again, he was probably still pissed at Shield), as I doubt the events in Captain America 2 will either.
So it is entirely possible that getting in touch with Banner (whose probably in some 3rd world country) and Thor (who was back in Asgard) is darn near impossible, and Tony is probably still pissed at Fury/Shield for what went down in the Avengers movie. And the events in Thor 2 basically happened away from earth, so Thor didn't have time or the resources to gather them together. And I don't think the events in Iron Man 3 warranted the other Avengers (and again, he was probably still pissed at Shield), as I doubt the events in Captain America 2 will either.
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