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your chicken stock for gumbo

Posted on 2/27/14 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 4:26 pm
How to

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Posted by Trout Bandit
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 4:30 pm to
Boil leg quarters with celery, onion, parsley, bay leaves and a few peppercorns until done. About 30 minutes. Cool and debone chicken. Roast bones at 400 for 1-1.5 hours until nice and brown. Add them to the broth and simmer for a 2-3 hours. Done.
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 4:36 pm to
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Roast bones at 400 for 1-1.5 hours until nice and brown. Add them to the broth and simmer for a 2-3 hours.


Posted by DonChowder
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 4:37 pm to
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Roast bones at 400 for 1-1.5 hours until nice and brown.
Damn...never tried that. What does that accomplish?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by Trout Bandit
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 4:39 pm to
Just makes it richer
Posted by Degas
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:08 pm to
Most of the time I purchase whole chickens and use/save the wing tips and the carcass for stock, along with any veggies that might not be fit for other presentation (always save and freeze those woody parts of asparagus that are cut off). Liquid gold made out of virtually throw away ingredients. Fresh ginger is my new favorite ingredient in chicken stock.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:16 pm to
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Fresh ginger is my new favorite ingredient in chicken stock.


That's interesting. Seems like it'd be a pretty strong/distinct flavor for a stock.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 5:29 pm to
Roast chicken bones until nice and toasted, cover with water and slow simmer for as long as you want. I usually add vegetable clippings . The longer the simmer, the better.
Posted by Sig
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:35 pm to
you can also roast the chicken skins and make schmaltz. That is pure flavor. Dump it back in along with the bones. Eat skin like pork rinds.
Posted by Degas
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:55 pm to
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Ginger - Seems like it'd be a pretty strong/distinct flavor for a stock.
Try it sometime because it adds depth without being overpowering. The mere slices/wedges of ginger add great flavor to the quarts of stock.
Posted by CT
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 6:59 pm to
i love ginger but not sure I want any hint of the flavor near gumbo.
Posted by Degas
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 7:32 pm to
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i love ginger but not sure I want any hint of the flavor near gumbo.
Oh shite, now I'm gonna get lynched by the purists. I was talking about stock in general.
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:29 pm to
For gumbo. I cut up an old hen or even two into pieces. Brown in canola oil in black iron skillet. Remove from heat and let cool.

Add a bit of wine to cast iron to deglaze; not more than a couple ounces. Scrape fond and add flour. Make a nice 30 minute/couple of cocktail roux.

Drop browned chicken in cool water and bring to boil, reduce to simmer. Season and let cook until meat is done but not too cooked. If you cook the chicken too far it will just shred.

Cool and debone. Discard bones because they have served their purpose. Chicken should be in pieces not shredded.

Add whatever herbs and vegetables you want to stock.

Then build your gumbo from there.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 8:58 pm to
The crispy skin and meat bits from the roasted bones aresome.
Posted by TigerAlum1982
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 9:05 pm to
My daughter had me use her recipe when I was visiting her and it came out really good. I copied this from an email she sent me with the directions on how to make it; that is why it is written like this!


Boiling the Chicken:
- season the chicken with,salt, pepper, or anything you want 
- put the whole chicken in the water with the skin on
- chop the celery and carrots into 2-3 inch pieces and put in the water
- take the skin off the red onion but SAVE the skin
- chop the onion into big pieces and put in the water
- put several whole cloves of garlic in the water (I like to chop the garlic cloves in half because I think they release more flavor but do whatever you want)
- put several sprigs of parsley in the water
- boil until chicken is cooked

Once the chicken is cooked, let it cool, and then peel all the chicken pieces off the bones; put chicken pieces in a container in the fridge 

Making the broth:
- Leave EVERYTHING in the water that was boiling with the chicken
- Add all the bones and extra pieces back in...waste no part of the chicken! 
- Add about a half tablespoon of apple cider vinegar to the broth
- Add all onion and garlic skins that you saved from last night and this morning
- Add about a half tablespoon of whole peppercorns
- Add sea salt...I like my broth to have a slight salty taste and the salt brings out the other flavors 
- Add more parsley and any leftover stems 
- Leave everything in there simmering...everything can stay simmering all day or until we are ready to make the gumbo.

Strain through cheesecloth.
Posted by Stadium Rat
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Posted on 2/27/14 at 11:33 pm to
One thing I've heard is that you should put the chicken in cold water, then bring up to simmer. Supposedly, the pores in the bones don't get clogged right away in this method and it lets the collagen release into the stock better for more flavor.

And I've had a chef tell me that roasting bones gives what he called a "rich stock".
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 12:21 am to
Yeah, don't boil it.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 7:30 am to
I like to make stock and freeze it in quart containers to be used when I like, or at times I'll make a bunch to use for a gumbo and freeze what I don't use.

6 chicken carcasses
6 yellow onions ( pealed and quartered)
6 carrots ( rough chopped)
6 Celery stalks ( rough chopped)
1 bulb of garlic (halved)
4 sprigs thyme
3 bay leaves
2 tbsp whole black pepper corns


Take whole chicken carcasses and place on 2 sheet pans. Brown in the oven on 375 to 400 until bones are browned, about 2 hours.

Place chicken bones, veg, bay leaves, thyme, and whole peppercorns in large stock pot and cover with roughly 2 1/2 gallons of water. Bring everything to a boil and reduce to a slight simmer, and let go uncovered on your stove overnight. You want it to just barely bubble on simmer or on one of the lowest settings you have on your stove top. You are looking for a little bubble to pop through every so often here and there.

I'll let mine go for about 12 hours or longer, so if I'm doing a gumbo for instance the next day, I'll get that going the evening before and use the prep time to get everything else cut up that I will need the next day, and use the chicken meat I remove from the bones to use in my gumbo as well.

When your stock is ready, pour it through a chinois or strainer a couple of times, first to remove the bones and large pieces of veg and such, and a second time to remove smaller particulates. If using a strainer only, and depending on how clear you want this stock to be, you can also pour it a third time through some cheese cloth lining the bottom of the strainer until you achieve the desired clarity. For most things however, that's probably not necessary. Twice will do.

Pour into a large enough container capable of holding the volume of stock and let cool to room temp on the counter, portion and freeze, or use in your dish. I'll use some cambros I have. They come in handy, and I stock up on quart containers with lids like nobody's business. Best thing ever for freezing liquid, leftover beans, gumbo, etc.




This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 7:32 am
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 2/28/14 at 7:38 am to
2 hours at 375 to 400?
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