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Man dead after refusing to show police ID
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:11 pm to EA6B
Yep, just one more example of cops acting like thugs.
We won't hear a peep from the "good cops" who should be demanding these individuals be held accountable for their actions. That is probably because good cops don't exist.
Once again though, nothing will come of this. These thugs will get docked a little bit of pay, suspended for a short amount of time, and then go about their merry little lives. The rest of us would be locked away for doing something like that.
We just get held to a higher standard than the uneducated, adrenaline junkies who happen to be backed by the government and can harass and assault citizens at whim.
We won't hear a peep from the "good cops" who should be demanding these individuals be held accountable for their actions. That is probably because good cops don't exist.
Once again though, nothing will come of this. These thugs will get docked a little bit of pay, suspended for a short amount of time, and then go about their merry little lives. The rest of us would be locked away for doing something like that.
We just get held to a higher standard than the uneducated, adrenaline junkies who happen to be backed by the government and can harass and assault citizens at whim.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:13 pm to EA6B
If mother and daughter had not acted like heatherns, cops would have never been there. If the husband had not been combative, he likely wouldn't have been sprayed and taken down. Being civilized has it's perks.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:13 pm to EA6B
That's why you always have a dog with you, so they kill the dog and not you.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:14 pm to Alahunter
quote:Like I said, we normal citizens are held to a higher standard than cops.
Being civilized has it's perks.
Apparently, only one side needed to act civilized.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:16 pm to EA6B
I was just about to post this.
Dude and his family were in Moore, OK (site of those tornadoes last year, right outside OKC).
Mom slaps 19 yr old daughter for being disrespectful. Police swarm (as they often do when the cops have absolutely nothing to do). Accost the man whom they presume is at fault in the dispute. Five of them pepper spray him in the mouth, eyes, and ears. Throw him to the ground. Lay on top of him.
The coroner has not come back with the autopsy yet, but when he does, it is presumed to be death by asphyxiation.
To hell with these cops.
The video does not show the initial engagement, but as they are speaking to the woman, the cops do not give an argument as to why they pummeled the guy.
Also of interest, here is a link to Moore, Oklahoma crime:
WAY LESS THAN AVG AMERICAN CITY
Dude and his family were in Moore, OK (site of those tornadoes last year, right outside OKC).
Mom slaps 19 yr old daughter for being disrespectful. Police swarm (as they often do when the cops have absolutely nothing to do). Accost the man whom they presume is at fault in the dispute. Five of them pepper spray him in the mouth, eyes, and ears. Throw him to the ground. Lay on top of him.
The coroner has not come back with the autopsy yet, but when he does, it is presumed to be death by asphyxiation.
To hell with these cops.
The video does not show the initial engagement, but as they are speaking to the woman, the cops do not give an argument as to why they pummeled the guy.
Also of interest, here is a link to Moore, Oklahoma crime:
WAY LESS THAN AVG AMERICAN CITY
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:16 pm to Scruffy
They did what they were trained to do. Guy likely asphyxiated from the pepper spray. They immediately called for medical personnel once they realized he needed medical attention. A cops job isn't to risk being abused or worse. Their job is to take control of a situation to prevent it from escalating. As I said, don't act a heathern, don't get treated like one.
eta- It's an unfortunate tragedy that was brought on by the actions of the wife. There are consequences to actions. Yelling and screaming doesn't change that.
eta- It's an unfortunate tragedy that was brought on by the actions of the wife. There are consequences to actions. Yelling and screaming doesn't change that.
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:19 pm to Alahunter
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Alahunter
quote:
Their job is to take control of a situation to prevent it from escalating.
I would say the sole reason that the situation escalated to a man's death was the mother fricking police.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:20 pm to CherryGarciaMan
Had he calmly stated his name, do you think he'd be dead today?
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:21 pm to KeyserSoze999
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frickin egos, sigh
It's usually what causes the situations to begin with.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:22 pm to Alahunter
No, they did not immediately call for medical attention. Five of them continued to hold him down until he was dead.
I don't know if they are trained to kill people for not showing ID or not, but if that is the policy then it needs to be changed.
I don't know if they are trained to kill people for not showing ID or not, but if that is the policy then it needs to be changed.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:22 pm to Alahunter
Does it really matter?
My God..
How can you be defending this?
People aren't always going to behave ideally, the job of the officer is to handle it like a professional, not a thug. Being uncooperative is not a green light to brutally beat someone and kill them.
My God..
How can you be defending this?
People aren't always going to behave ideally, the job of the officer is to handle it like a professional, not a thug. Being uncooperative is not a green light to brutally beat someone and kill them.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:22 pm to Alahunter
quote:
They did what they were trained to do. Guy likely asphyxiated from the pepper spray. They immediately called for medical personnel once they realized he needed medical attention. A cops job isn't to risk being abused or worse. Their job is to take control of a situation to prevent it from escalating. As I said, don't act a heathern, don't get treated like one.
eta- It's an unfortunate tragedy that was brought on by the actions of the wife. There are consequences to actions. Yelling and screaming doesn't change that.
Wow, what a pathetic apologetic little bitch you are.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:23 pm to Scruffy
quote:
Like I said, we normal citizens are held to a higher standard than cops.
Apparently, only one side needed to act civilized.
you don't know anything that happened from that video.
So you are making a lot of assumptions.
Obviously death seems extreme in this incident, but there is no way of knowing why he died (Freak reaction to pepper spray?) or why they peppered sprayed him in the first place.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:23 pm to Alahunter
You never fail to be a perfect jack arse.
Escalating? What? You mean like dying?
quote:
Their job is to take control of a situation to prevent it from escalating.
Escalating? What? You mean like dying?
This post was edited on 2/26/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:23 pm to Alahunter
quote:So, they are trained to tackle, assault, and restrain an individual who had nothing to do with the reason why they were there for not showing the cops his ID?
They did what they were trained to do.
Well damn, that is some amazing training that we give these people.
quote:Then the guy was killed by the person who used the pepper spray on him. That is a fact.
Guy likely asphyxiated from the pepper spray.
quote:Well, good for them. That just makes everything leading up to that point completely acceptable.
They immediately called for medical personnel once they realized he needed medical attention.
quote:A cop's job also isn't to put himself and others in positions like this.
A cops job isn't to risk being abused or worse.
quote:
Their job is to take control of a situation to prevent it from escalating.
Where the hell was it going to escalate? An unarmed man who wasn't a threat to anyone around him, a fact that is apparent since he had just left a movie theater with a multitude of other people and wasn't even involved in the situation that they cops were called for, is now dead.
I would like to give the cops a round of applause for that one. They sure kept that situation from escalating.
quote:You condemn the non-cop and hold him to a higher standard than those who have the ability to assault and possibly murder regular citizens. That just amazes me.
As I said, don't act a heathern, don't get treated like one.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:23 pm to Sleeping Tiger
quote:
How can you be defending this?
Probably a pig himself.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:24 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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green light to brutally beat someone
Where did this happen? I must have missed it.
quote:
How can you be defending this?
I'm not. I'm also not vilifying the cops, without knowing the entire scenario. Based on claims the man was combative, I will give them some room, until proven otherwise. Domestic situations are some of the most dangerous situations a LE officer has to deal with. I doubt seriously they got together and said, hey, lets go kill this guy.
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:24 pm to Alahunter
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There are consequences to actions
So are you saying the cops should be held accountable for their actions or not?
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