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Most Influential: John Hughes or Harold Ramis?
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:07 pm
When I heard earlier today that Ramis had died, it made me think of John Hughes. Both of these men's body of work influenced my childhood. And as many have said about Ramis, his resume includes some of the best comedies ever.
So, is it fair to compare the two and if so who do you think had the biggest cinematic influence?
So, is it fair to compare the two and if so who do you think had the biggest cinematic influence?
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Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:08 pm to classictiger
Personally
I am going to say Ramis.
I am going to say Ramis.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:12 pm to classictiger
For me personally, it's Ramis by a lot. I didn't get into most of the John Hughes movies, but the Ramis ones have helped define my sense of humor my entire life.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:15 pm to classictiger
I would go with John Hughes. But Ramis was great too.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:15 pm to classictiger
ramis for sure.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:20 pm to classictiger
Ramis
More timeless, more universally appreciated comedies. Hughes' movies are still great, but not as great as they were when I was a teenager.
More timeless, more universally appreciated comedies. Hughes' movies are still great, but not as great as they were when I was a teenager.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:31 pm to classictiger
While I love both, the scale tilts slightly towards Hughes for me...
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:46 pm to NameWithheld
Say Anything = Cameron Crowe
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:48 pm to classictiger
Easy, Ramis
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:48 pm to classictiger
It's close, but considering both his writing and directing credits, the nod has to go to Ramis
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:48 pm to classictiger
2 of my top 3 comedies are Harold Ramis films. While Hughes made some great teen angst movies, and Home Alone is a classic Christmas movie, for me personally, it's Ramis, by a lot.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:48 pm to spslayto
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I would go with John Hughes. But Ramis was great too.
Same for me.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:53 pm to classictiger
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who do you think had the biggest cinematic influence?
Ramis. But Hughes was a very close second.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:03 pm to NameWithheld
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While I love both, the scale tilts slightly towards Hughes for me...
You must not be that big of a fan if you don't know he had absolutely nothing to do with "Say Anything..."
Cameron Crowe wrote and directed FYI.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:09 pm to classictiger
I like John Hughes but it's gotta be Harold Ramis.
He was in a number of great movies, wrote, directed and produced even more great movies, and inspired some great writers and directors.
Thanks for all the laughs, Mr. Ramis.
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Ramis' comedies were often wild, silly and tilting toward anarchy, but they also were cerebral and iconoclastic, with the filmmaker heeding the Second City edict to work at the top of one's intelligence. This combination of smart and gut-bustingly funny led a generation of comedic actors and filmmakers — including Judd Apatow ("The 40 Year Old Virgin," "Knocked Up," Jay Roach ("Meet the Parents," the "Austin Powers" movies), Peter Farrelly ("There's Something About Mary," "Dumb and Dumber"), Jake Kasdan ("Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story," "Orange County," both of which featured Ramis in small roles) and Adam Sandler (who starred in his own wacky golf comedy, "Happy Gilmore") — to cite him as a key inspiration.
He was in a number of great movies, wrote, directed and produced even more great movies, and inspired some great writers and directors.
Thanks for all the laughs, Mr. Ramis.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:10 pm to classictiger
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So, is it fair to compare the two and if so who do you think had the biggest cinematic influence?
I think it is fair - they're probably the "twin towers" of 1980s comedy directors.
Certainly Hughes influenced other filmmakers - look no further than Kevin Smith.
However, Ramis' films had a more broad appeal, in my opinion. Hughes films were targeted at my generation, specifically, as I was born in the late 60s and graduated from high school in the mid-80s.
There were fewer than 6 years separating them in age, they were both from the Upper Midwest and both had an affiliation with Chicago.
Both filmmakers produced popular comedy films, with, generally, a core group of actors we saw over and over.
For me - Ramis' films are funnier and stand the test of time, while I identify more with the characters in Hughes' films. I hear both men's films quoted on a regular basis by casual and more serious film fans. It is difficult to answer the question as to which man is/was more influential. Probably close, and probably Ramis.
Their significant interaction was National Lampoon's Vacation - a classic Hughes script, based on his real life experience going to Disneyland as a kid in the late 1950s, and was directed by Harold Ramis. One of the best comedies of all time.
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:19 pm to classictiger
Ramis
Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:22 pm to tigerinthebueche
Ramis easily. I constantly think of his movies, while I only think of Hughes when they're on tv or its Christmas.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:25 pm to Ace Midnight
Ramis - they're just plain funnier.
Not a knock on Hughes. I think his movies are great, but I don't laugh at them like a Ramis film.
Eta:
And a Donut without a hole is a Danish....
Not a knock on Hughes. I think his movies are great, but I don't laugh at them like a Ramis film.
Eta:
And a Donut without a hole is a Danish....
This post was edited on 2/24/14 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 2/24/14 at 1:28 pm to tigerinthebueche
I refuse to choose
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