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Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)
Posted by PelicanPoop on 2/24/14 at 8:26 am00
Short of any smartass answers such as another Katrina, what is New Orleans' most likely best path for reducing crime? Of course it will never go away completely as there is crime everywhere (except OT ballers' neighborhoods).
My theory is the only hope for New Orleans is via the continuing "boutiquing" of the city. Rocketing rents, property taxes, gentrification will just continue to push the poor out. Criminals have to live somewhere, shower, sleep, eat somewhere. Will they just be pushed out to the Westbank and NO East as the inner city continues to gentrify? Don't most street criminals do their deeds not far from home?
Seems to me the biggest targets for the gays and hipsters (those are usually the urban pioneers to begin the gentrification process) would be West Carrollton/Leonidas, Holly Grove, and the 7th Ward.
My theory is the only hope for New Orleans is via the continuing "boutiquing" of the city. Rocketing rents, property taxes, gentrification will just continue to push the poor out. Criminals have to live somewhere, shower, sleep, eat somewhere. Will they just be pushed out to the Westbank and NO East as the inner city continues to gentrify? Don't most street criminals do their deeds not far from home?
Seems to me the biggest targets for the gays and hipsters (those are usually the urban pioneers to begin the gentrification process) would be West Carrollton/Leonidas, Holly Grove, and the 7th Ward.
This post was edited on 2/24 at 8:27 am
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by NIH on 2/24/14 at 8:27 am to PelicanPoop
let them have jefferson parish
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by TigerWise on 2/24/14 at 8:28 am to PelicanPoop
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be West Carrollton/Leonidas, Holly Grove,
It's already started with Dublin St.
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by rickyh on 2/24/14 at 8:30 am to PelicanPoop
So what you are trying hard to say in a sneaky way. Is the more the population trends from black to white, crime will go down. We already know where the problem lies. But you are trying hard to be politically correct.
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by PelicanPoop on 2/24/14 at 8:31 am to kyledavis
Didn't San Francisco have crime issues before Silicon Valley exploded and all that tech money invested and took over SF?
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by IPlayedGreatTonight on 2/24/14 at 8:32 am to PelicanPoop
7th Ward will eventually be gentrified. it's too close to vital areas and areas that have already been heavily gentrified. 7th Ward between Esplanade and the Bywater are close to some pretty decent areas full of wealthy-ish people who seem to have decided that the best way to fix alot of these issues is through gentrification. the East is beyond fixable, so they'll let the poor have it.
the biggest issue is that after Mitch, love him or hate him, there is no one who could potentially run for mayor who doesn't seem like a stereotypical New Orleans politician.
the biggest issue is that after Mitch, love him or hate him, there is no one who could potentially run for mayor who doesn't seem like a stereotypical New Orleans politician.
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by TigerWise on 2/24/14 at 8:35 am to IPlayedGreatTonight
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the biggest issue is that after Mitch, love him or hate him, there is no one who could potentially run for mayor who doesn't seem like a stereotypical New Orleans politician.
Drew Brees
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by tLSU on 2/24/14 at 8:36 am to PelicanPoop
The only way the serious violent crimes are going to be reduced is through community organized policing (COPS), which would require a huge influx of police officers. The officers get out of their cars and walk the streets and talk to residents constantly....to the point where criminals can no longer effectively lock down the community through fear of snitching, because snitching versus daily conversation with the police can't be discerned. This allows people to drop tips to the police as to who the problems are, and that problem can then be quickly dealt with.
When you utilize the current plan, which is 2-3 cars running around a district, going from call to call and doing no patrolling, you're destined to continue the current cycle.
When you utilize the current plan, which is 2-3 cars running around a district, going from call to call and doing no patrolling, you're destined to continue the current cycle.
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re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by saderade on 2/24/14 at 8:37 am to PelicanPoop
quote:This is the best scenario.
Will they just be pushed out to the Westbank and NO East as the inner city continues to gentrify?
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by IPlayedGreatTonight on 2/24/14 at 8:40 am to NIH
I'd be more than willing to bet Brees hightails it back to San Diego when he retires.
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by NIH on 2/24/14 at 8:41 am to IPlayedGreatTonight
wouldn't blame him one bit. SD is the shite.
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by PelicanPoop on 2/24/14 at 8:41 am to REG861
Which begs another question. What is economic development? It isn't opening another Dollar General and its minimum wage jobs. Does this mean something on the lines of Avondale skilled labor? Expanding the Port of New Orleans? I went to college for an office job. Not everyone is going to college. I would be a terrible candidate for welding or skilled labor.
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by Boudreaux35 on 2/24/14 at 8:42 am to PelicanPoop
Nagin had the answer: Chocolate City
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by prince of fools on 2/24/14 at 8:43 am to PelicanPoop
There will never be an absolute zero in crime rates. The best way to get rid of crime is to improve education and job opportunities.
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by AngryBeavers on 2/24/14 at 8:46 am to tLSU
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he only way the serious violent crimes are going to be reduced is through community organized policing (COPS), which would require a huge influx of police officers. The officers get out of their cars and walk the streets and talk to residents constantly....to the point where criminals can no longer effectively lock down the community through fear of snitching, because snitching versus daily conversation with the police can't be discerned. This allows people to drop tips to the police as to who the problems are, and that problem can then be quickly dealt with.
You do realize police officers are lazy tax collectors and do not want to do any actual police work?
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by deNYEd on 2/24/14 at 8:49 am to prince of fools
Education is only real answer but real effects take 20 years and this is a what have you done lately business
re: Any criminologists here? (NOLA crime edition)Posted by notiger1997 on 2/24/14 at 8:49 am to PelicanPoop
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My theory is the only hope for New Orleans is via the continuing "boutiquing" of the city. Rocketing rents, property taxes, gentrification will just continue to push the poor out.
This is exactly what is happening. Oak Street, Bywater, Marigny, Freret St, Mid City, and hell, even some areas of central city too are all building up. It's a beautiful thing to see the turnaround happening.
Next up is Tulane Ave. Two to three new condo developments opened a few years ago and it shocked the shite out of me how well they sold.
Now some better restaurants and bars have opened. As the hospitals get closer to being done, it will boom like crazy.
It's not the perfect scenerio obviously becuase I would rather some real wholesale changes in the low IQ black culture of the few really bad areas left. I would love to see more drug rehab places and better job training, etc.
The schools are getting better and the influx of outsiders who care about the city have amazed me.
And yes, N.O. East and parts of Jefferson are taking in alot of trouble makers.
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