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Could OKC be better without Westbrook?
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:33 pm
Some guys on sports talk radio we're saying that RW takes too much away from KD's game.
That the team was better without RW.
Is that a possibility? Seems like they'd be better with their All-Star PG on the floor
That the team was better without RW.
Is that a possibility? Seems like they'd be better with their All-Star PG on the floor
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:35 pm to Vanilla Ice
stevie wonder has seen this thread. beethoven heard a rumor this thread had been started.
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:35 pm to Vanilla Ice
No
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:35 pm to Vanilla Ice
I think KD is so good he doesnt need a guy on his team who jacks it up, regardless of how good he is.
I like the thunder without him
I like the thunder without him
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:35 pm to Vanilla Ice
If he's gonna go back to taking more shots than KD, they are probably better without him, but if he does what's best for the team they are better with him.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:35 pm to Vanilla Ice
Well considering last year's playoffs id say no
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:37 pm to Vanilla Ice
He should come off the bench imo
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:38 pm to Vanilla Ice
OKC wouldn't be better by just subtracting Westbrook. But I've always felt OKC and Durant would be better if they traded Westbrook for one or two quality complimentary pieces.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:38 pm to Cosmo
What piece is OKC missing?
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:38 pm to Vanilla Ice
frick off
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:39 pm to Vanilla Ice
did you not see what happened in the playoffs when he went down
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:43 pm to Vanilla Ice
Is this a serious question?
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:51 pm to TTsTowel
In the playoffs teams would just key in hard on Durant and the Thunder would struggle. Just like last year.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:52 pm to Vanilla Ice
No.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:54 pm to Vanilla Ice
They should have let Westbrook go and kept Harden.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:56 pm to Tayday
quote:
I think KD is so good he doesnt need a guy on his team who jacks it up, regardless of how good he is.
I like the thunder without him
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:56 pm to sunnydaze
quote:
He should come off the bench imo
Posted on 2/23/14 at 12:59 pm to Fearthehat0307
Durant has elevated his game since last year.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 1:09 pm to Fearthehat0307
quote:But the team didn't know how to play without him yet.
did you not see what happened in the playoffs when he went down
Remember, before the Thunder did so well without him this year, they went 5-5 right after his injury.
They learned how to play without him, and they played some great basketball.
I think Durant is so good that having a player like Westbrook get the amount of touches he does takes away some of what Durant does and makes the team not as good as they could be as a result.
I think the team is better with Westbrook only if Westbrook takes on a smaller role so that Durant can have a larger role. Because when Westbrook is playing, Durant's role shrinks. Durant's role should be maximized.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 1:16 pm to Vanilla Ice
Excellent article from grantland discussing this same debate.
LINK
quote:
According to the data, this season the team’s two most common lineups feature Durant, Serge Ibaka, Thabo Sefolosha, and Kendrick Perkins. However, the most common lineup features Reggie Jackson at the point, while the other has Westbrook there. Westbrook has played 287 minutes with these guys and, surprisingly, opponents have outscored that unit by 7.5 points per 100 possessions. That’s bad. Jackson has played with those same four guys for 525 minutes; they have outscored opponents by 6.4 points per 100 possessions. That’s good.
quote:
Westbrook is a below-average shooter, especially as a jump shooter, and it becomes hard to justify — from an analytical point of view — his propensity to shoot near the elbows or above the break. This is where the opportunity costs arise: Many of Westbrook’s pull-up jumpers could instead be a Durant iso play or an Ibaka pick-and-pop. Durant is one of the most efficient scorers in the world, and when Westbrook is on the court he gets fewer touches and his usage goes down.
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While the pro-Westbrook camp can’t lean on many analytical facts from this year to support their case, its reasoning is no less persuasive. The NBA changes in the playoffs, and regular-season analytics might not be the best predictors of postseason performances. There are no bad teams in the playoffs. In fact, the Western Conference playoffs this year will feature only very, very good basketball teams. Eliminating Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph in a seven-game series in May is a different challenge than besting the Milwaukee Bucks in January. Simply put, with Jackson as their point guard, the Thunder were an easy out in last year’s playoffs.
LINK
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 1:17 pm
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