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Quote from the Ukrainian Revolution to Remind us about the 2nd Amendmen
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:52 pm
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This is war. Everybody keeps repeating this. But what kind of war is that? They have weapons, they shoot, and we are empty-handed.
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
Shoot first ask questions later.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
No, it's a protest taking place in one square
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
But this is America, our government would never do something like that to us...... would they?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:02 pm to shawnlsu
That quote should give us all pause for thought, and it's why I'm proud of thousands of Connecticut gun owners who are choosing liberty and not complying with that state's new registration law. 
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:02 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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No, it's a protest taking place in one square
Wasn't the Boston massacre a protest in a square?
I'm going to edit that it was a street before it gets nit picked to death to miss the point.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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No, it's a protest taking place in one square
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:50 pm to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
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This is war. Everybody keeps repeating this. But what kind of war is that? They have weapons, they shoot, and we are empty-handed.
The 2nd Amendment may have been penned with several reasons in mind, but one reason it was NOT written was the taking up of arms against elected officials of the United States government.
Look at the reactions of the Founders to Shay's Rebellion before the Constitution, and the Whiskey Rebellion after the Constitution was signed, to name two, that influenced how those guys felt about the necessity of citizens having guns.
You can make a very strong case for the citizens having guns to defend ourselves against a foreign government, or one that is looking to overthrow the United States government, but the argument of having guns to defend ourselves against our own elected officials was never the intention of the Founders.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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No, it's a protest taking place in one square
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:16 pm to souldog
BS. That's exactly why it was written.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:17 pm to souldog
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The 2nd Amendment may have been penned with several reasons in mind, but one reason it was NOT written was the taking up of arms against elected officials of the United States government.
Look at the reactions of the Founders to Shay's Rebellion before the Constitution, and the Whiskey Rebellion after the Constitution was signed, to name two, that influenced how those guys felt about the necessity of citizens having guns.
just b/c our founding fathers were hypocrites doesn't mean that's not the meaning behind the 2A
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:20 pm to souldog
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
I had similar thoughts today when is saw the photo in page 1 of the WSJ with the protester armed with a slingshot.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:42 pm to souldog
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That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government...
Declaration of Independence
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And what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure.
Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, Paris, 13 Nov. 1787
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The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere.
Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1787.
These are just a few quotes from ONE of the Founders. It seems pretty clear to me that they thought armed rebellion against government may one day be necessary.
As SFP said, they weren't above hypocrisy... See slavery, the Louisiana Purchase, etc.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
but but but this could never happen in America, because we've been re-educating our kids to be peaceful, understanding, non-bulling citizens since 1964
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:47 pm to souldog
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You can make a very strong case for the citizens having guns to defend ourselves against a foreign government, or one that is looking to overthrow the United States government, but the argument of having guns to defend ourselves against our own elected officials was never the intention of the Founders.
i have to give you the benefit of the doubt that you realize this is completely nonsensical.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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No, it's a protest taking place in one square
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Liberals want everybody to either register their weapons, that way the government knows who has them, or they want the weapons to be placed in a certain area for militia purposes, an area which the government knows about.
The problem is the liberals don't realize that the tyrannical government is the potential tyrannical enemy that is behind the logic of the 2nd Amendment, which we derived from the English Rights of Man. Or I guess they do realize it but just figure they'll be on the side of the tyrants.
Really is hilarious.
The problem is the liberals don't realize that the tyrannical government is the potential tyrannical enemy that is behind the logic of the 2nd Amendment, which we derived from the English Rights of Man. Or I guess they do realize it but just figure they'll be on the side of the tyrants.
Really is hilarious.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:19 pm to Srbtiger06
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just b/c our founding fathers were hypocrites doesn't mean that's not the meaning behind the 2A
Just exactly what IS the meaning of statements made by "hypocrites" supposed to mean? So, I guess I have to ask: What, pray tell, is the REAL meaning of the 2nd Amendment as written by hypocrites?
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These are just a few quotes from ONE of the Founders. It seems pretty clear to me that they thought armed rebellion against government may one day be necessary.
So, I am assuming that you figure that the Founders were all for guys showing up at the courthouse with arms because they had been "wronged" somehow? Yes, of course these men of The Enlightenment (I probably have to explain that to you), just a figured that if you's don't like what the gubment is doin you just take a bunch of packin locals to the gubment and demand they'ens change?
Really? That was called "The Civil War", and it was fought 150 years ago. I can quote Lincoln until the ol' cows come home, but I'm a guessin' he's not on your top list of 'mericans, right?
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