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Retriever training

Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:10 am
Posted by bg22
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:10 am
I have a 3 month old Lab pup I'm looking to get trained. Anybody have any recommendations? Im in NWLA btw
Posted by Choirboy
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:20 am to
There are a few over your way that would love to take your money and train the dog. My best advice is to read all you can and watch DVD's and train the dog yourself to the best of your abilities. You and the dog will bond and you will be forever grateful for the time spent training. Don't tell me you don't have time either. You make time, you get your kids/family involved. Take 15 minutes a day and dedicate it to your dog and he will become something you thought you could never have.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 11:25 am
Posted by Choirboy
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:25 am to
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2014
2014 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:30 am to
You'd honestly do better if you train him yourself. My nephew paid a like $80-$120 (forgot how much)to get his trained at petsmart. All the dog got from those classes, was the treats they give you for attending. He just didn't catch on. So my nephew bought him to the house and we worked with him ourselves. He caught on so fast. All you need is about 20-40 minutes a day and keep your money. Like the guy above said, get your kids involved too. Make it a learning experience for the entire family. I guarantee better results than most trainers out there.

Also, the younger you teach them the better. Show some patience at the beginning. He'll catch on and you'll love it.
Posted by bg22
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:39 am to
Thanks, but I think y'all underestimate my laziness
Posted by Camo Tiger 337
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2014
2014 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:47 am to
Yes, but you should make time for him just like you make time for your family. It's really a win win for both of you. You get to know each other better and that trust grows.

Wish I could've helped though. Unfortunately don't know any certified trainers. Whatever you do, Don't pay for classes at petsmart. Take it from someone who's gone that route before
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 11:49 am
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12521 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:37 pm to
Joe and Tina Perron in Bentley, LA. Look them up at
championretrievers.com. They are great people and excellent dog people. A bit pricey but worth it. Mr. Bill Autrey is also an excellent trainer but I think his cancer has come back.
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1597 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:44 pm to
First 6-8 months you need to give the dog obedience training and fun retrieves.

One of the top training tips I like is to have your dog wait before you command it to do anything. Ie wait to eat, wait to enter inside or outside. It's crucial for the blind, bc a dog that goes before it's told won't eye the downed bird correctly. Also, getting it really good at the heal command on both sides is good.

Once he or she is about 8 months do yourself a favor and get it professionally forced fetched. Then make a decision on what you want to do next (train yourself or professionally). But, no matter what, FF will make it a whole lot easier to train and listen period.
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1597 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Retriever training Joe and Tina Perron in Bentley, LA. Look them up at championretrievers.com. They are great people and excellent dog people. A bit pricey but worth it. Mr. Bill Autrey is also an excellent trainer but I think his cancer has come back.


Both excellent choices, I have one of my pups at Joe and Tina's now.

Bill doesn't really like pups to train.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 12:50 pm
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10396 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

First 6-8 months you need to give the dog obedience training and fun retrieves.

One of the top training tips I like is to have your dog wait before you command it to do anything. Ie wait to eat, wait to enter inside or outside. It's crucial for the blind, bc a dog that goes before it's told won't eye the downed bird correctly. Also, getting it really good at the heal command on both sides is good.

Once he or she is about 8 months do yourself a favor and get it professionally forced fetched. Then make a decision on what you want to do next (train yourself or professionally). But, no matter what, FF will make it a whole lot easier to train and listen period.


Best advice posted. Simple retrieves and get the dog into water and used to gun fire. I have trained 4 Labs with 2 going to Finished and I didn't start handling work till after they were a year old.

Everything building off of the simple mark and retrieve to hand is easily done with simple training methods except for FF, which absolutely should be done by a Pro.
Posted by Big Data
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:22 pm to
I used Circle J Kennels in Spring Hill. They board.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:34 pm to




Read this. If you have time to own a dog you have time to train it, and he will respond better to you in the field.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 2:03 pm to
British or American?


It is VERY important to know the difference.

Brits have been selectively bred to deliver to hand for 100's of years. You should not have to force fetch a Brit. You are replacing genetic traits with training which is always inferior. You can easily ruin a dog by force fetching him. A professional trainer can easily ruin a dog by force fetching him. Trust me, I have first hand experience with this.

Most pups, even American are born with an instinct to deliver to hand. This trait is often "trained" out of them by letting them drop dummies during the very early "play" training period. Then, after a year or so, they have to be re-trained to deliver (FF).
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 2:06 pm to
I didn't know what the hell I was doing, and my dog surprises me. She's not perfect, but I'm proud of what she can do. Like other's have said, basic obedience is the key. Once she learned to sit, stay, and heel, the other stuff came easily. She naturally likes to retrieve, so controlling it is a lot easier once you have the obedience down.

Literally only work with her for about 15-20 minutes a day, 3 days a week at most. She's picking up on hand signals pretty well. Again, I had absolutely no experience. This is my first dog as an adult.

Also, I did not force fetch my dog and it shows. When she doesn't want to retrieve any more, she's done. Which doesn't happen often, but you don't want them to decide when it's time to work and when it's not. And from what I've read, force fetching would have helped a lot to collar condition my dog. Only thing I can correct with the collar is the heel command, other than that, she loses track of whatever she's doing once she's hit with it. I may send her to someone to get it done, she's a little over a year now.
Posted by BoogerEater
Lake Charles, La.
Member since Feb 2008
1597 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 5:33 pm to
You are right about the forced fetched part, I should have structured my statement to say Force training, not FF. The difference is forced fetch is exactly as it implies, but force training does all force phases. ie sitting, healing, force to pile, etc. I say force fetch bc most people call it that. Which doesn't matter which breed you have they both need it. Especially if you want to get your dog into trails and test.
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