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Can someone explain how Obama can decide on his own to ban US ivory sales?

Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:54 pm
I'm not really looking to bash the man, just want to understand how he can legally do this.

quote:

New York, and the country as a whole, has an illegal ivory problem, one that President Obama wants to end with a complete ban on the commercial sale of ivory. The ban is part of an executive order against the illegal wildlife trade that the White House announced Tuesday. Owning ivory will still be OK—assuming it was purchased legally in the first place—but selling the white stuff will be a big no-no, unless it’s a “bona fide antique” of over 100 years old (a fact sellers will have to prove).


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My understanding is that if you own any ivory the burden of proof will be on YOU as an individual to prove that it somehow complies with Obama's new decree.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39155 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:58 pm to
Its the same reason he can change laws on his own, because no one will challenge him on it.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118893 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 8:59 pm to
I think Kings get to make the rules. Queens too.
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3232 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:00 pm to
He did the same thing with flavored cigarettes... I'd love to see a constitutional lawyer argue that one
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66997 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:00 pm to
sucks if you have a 90 year old piano.
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:01 pm to
See Obama hasn't met his quota of EO and has to continue until he signs as many as Bush. According to some on this board all EO are equall whether it is making a flag half mast or anything else. Oh and Fox News has you brained washed.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17762 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:08 pm to
This is one of the least egregious things he has done IMO.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18052 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

rhinoceroses


rhinoseri?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Oh and Fox News has you brained washed.



OH NOZ not the dread Fox news card.
That will teach him not to mess with you.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 2/18/14 at 9:33 pm to
This isn't the only issue Obama has with Ivory.
Posted by Elcid96
Member since May 2010
5465 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 6:09 am to
Your sarcasm meter must be broke.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 7:04 am to
quote:

Your sarcasm meter must be broke.


It happens.

You are just too good at pretending to be a whiny lib.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 7:07 am to
quote:

rhinoseri?



Not ivory, it is actually hair in the horn of one.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 7:09 am to
quote:

This isn't the only issue Obama has with Ivory.



Obama Hates Ivory!
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 7:09 am to
Why would he ban Ivory? I quit using it a long time ago. I prefer Irish Spring or Axe.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 7:15 am to
Will I now have to register my ivory dominoes? Will background checks for dominoes be a thing of the future?

I don't want to go to jail.

Maybe I'll just get droned and be put out of my misery.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 7:23 am to
One of the things I received after my grandmothers passing was a line of elephants carved out of ivory, that I used to play with as a child.

So am I to understand that heirloom could be illegal to own if it is less than 100 years old?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:00 am to
quote:

So am I to understand that heirloom could be illegal to own if it is less than 100 years old?


My understanding is that it will be illegal for you to sell or give to anyone else.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29024 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:03 am to
quote:

Why would he ban Ivory?



1) the name

2) it floats in water
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/19/14 at 9:10 am to
Well, guess I'd better be consistent.

The African Elephant Conservation Act of 1989, along with earlier Endangered Species acts, gives the executive branch, led by the President, power to regulate the ivory trade, up to an including an all-out ban.
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