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Snake Bite Question.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:55 am
Posted on 2/17/14 at 9:55 am
The Pentecostal Snake-Handler was bitten, allegedly, nine times, previously.
Wouldn't that build up sufficient Immunity? Vague Details about his Death.
Wouldn't that build up sufficient Immunity? Vague Details about his Death.
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Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:00 am to Blind Boy Grunt
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Wouldn't that build up sufficient Immunity
Is it even possible to build up immunity to neurotoxins?
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:03 am to Blind Boy Grunt
That SOB was retarded anyway...........
I watched that show a few times and that whole bunch is nuts.
I watched that show a few times and that whole bunch is nuts.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:03 am to AUCE05
I thought rattlesnake venom was a hemotoxin.
I think a lot of times those snakes are milked or stressed to the point that they don't bite and or are prone to a lot of dry bites.
the venom - while it works as a deterrent it is not really a defensive trait... it's main purpose is to kill food.
I think a lot of times those snakes are milked or stressed to the point that they don't bite and or are prone to a lot of dry bites.
the venom - while it works as a deterrent it is not really a defensive trait... it's main purpose is to kill food.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:04 am to CBLSU316
Yeah, I guess he didn't check out the Odds - with the Snakes.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:06 am to choupiquesushi
You are probably right.
ETA:
I looked it up, and you're correct.
ETA:
I looked it up, and you're correct.
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 10:16 am
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:07 am to Blind Boy Grunt
I'm no scientist, but I don't think the human body is capable of building a natural immunity to the neurotoxins found in snakes' venom. It isn't the same chemicals as a bee sting or a bug bite. That being said, some experimental vaccines exist where people have been known to survive upwards of 100 bites post-injection, but whether The Pentecostal Snake-Handler had been vaccinated is doubtful.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:12 am to GeauxBraves
The guy from the old Miami snake house supposedly built up a tolerance and lived to be quite old, but I'm not sure what all snakes he was dealing with.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 10:12 am to GeauxBraves
Posted on 2/17/14 at 12:50 pm to Blind Boy Grunt
It is very possible to build up snake venom immunity depending on the type of venom. I have a friend here in AZ who makes his living milking rattlesnakes. He injects himself with a small amount of venom regularly to build immunity. I have seen him get bit with no effect
Originally rattlesnake antivenin was made by injecting horses with venom and then pulling the antibodies out of the horses blood.
Originally rattlesnake antivenin was made by injecting horses with venom and then pulling the antibodies out of the horses blood.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:16 pm to Lpmann3
Yes and no. Each of the venom toxins are peptide/protein in nature, so antibodies can and will be made. The issue with toxicity is dose-related. You would not make enough antibody to protect you from a full-grown eastern diamondback that released a high venom yield (400-900 mg). Some people have died from associated coagulopathies following the administration of as much as 10-12 vials of antivenin. The antivenin BTW is CroFab. It is derived from E&W Diamondback, Mojave Rattler, and Cottonmouth. Most of E. Diamondback venom consists of phosphodiesterase and crotalase, but there is a low molecular weight neurotoxin component that impedes neuromuscular transmission (mild paralysis, including breathing difficulties).
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:21 pm to Elephino
Wow!
The Pentecostal Preacher had no Reservoir built up to resist his Fatal Bite? After nine previous Attacks?
The Pentecostal Preacher had no Reservoir built up to resist his Fatal Bite? After nine previous Attacks?
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:21 pm to Elephino
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Elphino
definitely stayed at holiday inn express last night
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:29 pm to shawnlsu
I teach this exact lecture to 3rd year pharmacy students in their Toxicology therapeutics module. I rather enjoy poisonous plants and animals.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 1:35 pm to Blind Boy Grunt
LINK
This guy take an injection of pure black mamba venom and doesn't break a sweat
Eta: start at about 2:00
This guy take an injection of pure black mamba venom and doesn't break a sweat
Eta: start at about 2:00
This post was edited on 2/17/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:14 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:
I thought rattlesnake venom was a hemotoxin.
Mojave venom is neurotoxin.
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:26 pm to Blind Boy Grunt
Guess not for him....
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:53 pm to Blind Boy Grunt
quote:
Wow!
The Pentecostal Preacher had no Reservoir built up to resist his Fatal Bite? After nine previous Attacks?
i would bet most were dry bites
Posted on 2/17/14 at 2:58 pm to Elephino
quote:
I teach this exact lecture to 3rd year pharmacy students in their Toxicology therapeutics module
did you take over from ms. ashe at LSU? i was in her enviro tox class in '90.
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