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Florida executes Juan Chavez for 1995 Killing and Rape of 9 Year Old Jimmy Ryce
Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:25 pm
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It took place this past Wednesday night.
This case actually spearheaded laws in the wake of the incident regarding sex offenders and child predators.
For example...
I have questions to how something like that works. Why not modify the law to allow a judge, jury or a board of some sort to extend the offender's original sentence when it expires and its proven the sexual predator is not rehabbed?
Also, The victim's family also had strong statements that typtifies why I support the death penalty ideally and in practice.
Per the victim's older brother...
I detest the current state of the death penalty today with the appeals drawn out for decades, housing and maintenance costs for death row inmates, and court costs overall. The death penalty itself is pretty cheap compared to life in prison but the process of bringing it about and making it come to fruition is what makes it so expensive.
With that said, I agree with him. The punishment must always fit the crime. If you take a life against the victim's will and take him/her from friends and family away forever, you should lose your life as well. That's justice.
In other death penalty news, Three former California governors back ballot measure designed to speed up executions.
It took place this past Wednesday night.
This case actually spearheaded laws in the wake of the incident regarding sex offenders and child predators.
For example...
quote:
Another accomplishment was 1998 passage in Florida of the Jimmy Ryce Act, versions of which have been adopted in other states. Under the law, sexual predators found to be still highly dangerous can be detained through civil commitment even after they have served their prison sentences. Such people must prove they have been rehabilitated before they can be released. Chavez had no criminal record, so the law would not have affected him.
I have questions to how something like that works. Why not modify the law to allow a judge, jury or a board of some sort to extend the offender's original sentence when it expires and its proven the sexual predator is not rehabbed?
Also, The victim's family also had strong statements that typtifies why I support the death penalty ideally and in practice.
Per the victim's older brother...
quote:
Many people did not believe that Juan Carlos Chavez should be put to death for his horrible crime of raping and murdering my brother Jimmy Ryce. I believe this comes from a place of weakness, not strength. It comes from not being able to face the atrociousness of some men’s actions and punish them on a level commensurate with their crime.
I detest the current state of the death penalty today with the appeals drawn out for decades, housing and maintenance costs for death row inmates, and court costs overall. The death penalty itself is pretty cheap compared to life in prison but the process of bringing it about and making it come to fruition is what makes it so expensive.
With that said, I agree with him. The punishment must always fit the crime. If you take a life against the victim's will and take him/her from friends and family away forever, you should lose your life as well. That's justice.
In other death penalty news, Three former California governors back ballot measure designed to speed up executions.
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:34 pm to Sentrius
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sexual predator is not rehabbed?
sexual predators don't rehab..bastards should be put in general population so they can't be butt raped with a mop handle
Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:35 pm to Sentrius
Someone would have to be insane to believe a person who rapes and murders a child can be rehabilitated. A person who would do such a thing is mentally damaged beyond repair. They should be exterminated to prevent any chance of it happening again.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:42 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Real Sexual predators and pedos cannot be rehabbed and it's a certainty they re-offend. I wish there was a huge medical break through that could make this possible but as it stands right now, it's virtually impossible.
I'm just asking regarding the practicality and application of this law. Why not just extend the sentence instead of going though with what sounds like a complete pain in the arse with civil commitment?
I'm just asking regarding the practicality and application of this law. Why not just extend the sentence instead of going though with what sounds like a complete pain in the arse with civil commitment?
Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:47 pm to Sentrius
I see no problem with it, but I am sure its done that way curently for legal reasons. Imo someone convicted of sexual predictor on a child should immdiatedly be put in a guillotine and then fed to the gators.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 9:51 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Imo someone convicted of sexual predictor on a child should immdiatedly be put in a guillotine and then fed to the gators.
yeah, i'm not really sure why we shelter these bastards for years...most sexual predators are released and they do it again...imo, what they do to young children equates to murder...they are murdering the innocence of a child, something that child will live with and have to deal with the rest of their lives
Posted on 2/15/14 at 10:18 pm to Sentrius
This fricker should have died before 1995 was even over.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:32 am to Sentrius
It really is ridiculous that it has taken this many years and an obscene amount of tax payer money to finally put that POS in the ground. 
Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:35 am to Sentrius
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Real Sexual predators and pedos cannot be rehabbed and it's a certainty they re-offend. I wish there was a huge medical break through that could make this possible but as it stands right now, it's virtually impossible.
Well perhaps instead of killing them it might be useful to study them.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:36 am to Tim
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sexual predators don't rehab..bastards should be put in general population so they can't be butt raped with a mop handle
So I guess its fair to say you are pro-sexual assault.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:37 am to Sentrius
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I have questions to how something like that works. Why not modify the law to allow a judge, jury or a board of some sort to extend the offender's original sentence when it expires and its proven the sexual predator is not rehabbed?
Violates 5th Amendment Double Jeopardy
Posted on 2/16/14 at 8:40 am to Antonio Moss
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Violates 5th Amendment Double Jeopardy
This.....the problem is actually with pansy arse Judges and District Attorneys!
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:38 pm to Antonio Moss
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Violates 5th Amendment Double Jeopardy
So civil commitment does not do that? Is that not basically the same as extending the original sentence and just putting a different name on it to avoid double jeopardy?
This is just a nuts and bolts question.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:46 pm to Sentrius
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So civil commitment does not do that? Is that not basically the same as extending the original sentence and just putting a different name on it to avoid double jeopardy?
Maybe. It certainly brings up an interesting legal issue. The argument I could see as to this avoiding Double Jeopardy restrictions is if there is a required civil commitment hearing based on the inmates current state of mind and not on previous crimes.
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:46 pm to Sentrius
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This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 2/16/14 at 1:54 pm to LSUwag
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Posted on 2/16/14 at 2:15 pm to LordSaintly
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A state-maintained sex offender prison is blatantly unconstitutional.
Unless we just make it an automatic life sentence and avoid any questions.
Of course, that creates an incentive to kill the victims so you still have problems.
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