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Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
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Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:24 pm
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This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 1:53 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:26 pm to
ethically? maybe not.

Shouldn't be illegal. If you don't like what they do with your money, don't give it to them.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35866 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:28 pm to
If it isn't illegal right now, it should be.

Posted by tiger 56
Severn, MD
Member since Dec 2003
1681 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:30 pm to
I believe that citizens united gives them the right.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

Message Posted by tiger 56 I believe that citizens united gives them the right.


I'm not asking if it's legal. Just because something is legal doesn't make it acceptable or even ethical.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56342 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

I'm not asking if it's legal. Just because something is legal doesn't make it acceptable or even ethical.



What would make it more unethical than any campaign contribution?
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

ethically? maybe not. Shouldn't be illegal. If you don't like what they do with your money, don't give it to them.


I can't have any interest in the finances of LSU athletics, as a state tax payer and LSU alumni?

It's not like LSU football could exist without the public institution's brand and it's alumni.

If we are going to completely separate them then we could probably sell the football program outright and get even more money back in return.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101232 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

I believe that citizens united gives them the right.


Is TAF a 501(c)(3) organization? I thought it was.

If so, they cannot legally support individual candidates, if that's what is meant by "fund political campaigns."
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Should LSU TAF be allowed to fund political campaigns?



Is this about St. George again?
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:48 pm to
Isn't the TAF a tax-exempt ("charity") organization?
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Posted by Y.A. Tittle quote: I believe that citizens united gives them the right. Is TAF a 501(c)(3) organization? I thought it was. If so, they cannot legally support individual candidates, if that's what is meant by "fund political campaigns."


Good point. You are correct, they can't legally make contributions.

I was incorrect in believing they could theoretically do it if they wanted to. I know politicians use campaign funds to pay TAF (possibly to get discounted seats?), but haven't heard of TAF giving cash to any campaigns and now I know why.

This thread is basically useless now and the OP should be shot.
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32196 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:53 pm to
Their charter, mission statement or whatever they live by should state what the money that is donated is to be used for. If it says athletics, athletic scholarships, facilities, etc., and nothing about political contributions, I would be pissed if I gave them money and they contributed to a political campaign.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101232 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

This thread is basically useless now and the OP should be shot.


Let's not go overboard. A public lashing should be sufficient.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

I believe that citizens united gives them the right.

Citizens United doesn't give anyone or any company (public, private, nonprofit) the right to "fund political campaigns."

It gives them the right to fund advertising, for example, that supports a particular political candidate or viewpoint, as long as it's independent of said political campaign.

On a federal level, direct political contributions are still illegal. That's why Alito was shaking his head "no" to Obama's bullshite during the SOTU several years back.

On a state level... well, that's up to each state.

Some allow unlimited direct corporate political contributions, others prohibit corporate donations directly to political campaigns. Some are in between.

In Louisiana, corporations have the same limits as individuals: $5,000/statewide candidate, $2,500/legislature candidate.

State Limits on Contributions to Candidates

EDIT: And has already been addressed, nonprofits are a whole different ballgame. Not allowed.
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35866 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:12 pm to
TAF is given seating privileges in Tiger Stadium and at other LSU arenas to sell.

It wouldn't be ethical or legal for the state to give their "property" away to a private group who would then sell the property and donate the proceeds to fund candidates or causes.

Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:16 pm to
Since your posted was technically in reply to me, I was only talking about the common misconception of Citizens United (that it allowed direct corporate political contributions - it does not).

Your fundraising arm is a nonprofit, for which political contributions are certainly illegal. Sorry for the confusion.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

What would make it more unethical than any campaign contribution?




They are a non-profit, if they get involved in politics they should lose their tax exempt status just like any other non-profit.
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