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Terry Bradshaw is the GOAT at QB
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:49 pm
By many accounts championships define the greatest of the greats.
Now if Peyton Mannings career or legacy is tarnished for losing 2 superbowls then you gotta put Big Ben, Troy Aikman, and Terry Bradshaw on top of your lists.
Joe Flacco & Trent Dilfer have to be mentioned ahead of Dan Marino as well.
You can either base greatness off of championships or not. Can't pick and choose when it's suitable.
Now if Peyton Mannings career or legacy is tarnished for losing 2 superbowls then you gotta put Big Ben, Troy Aikman, and Terry Bradshaw on top of your lists.
Joe Flacco & Trent Dilfer have to be mentioned ahead of Dan Marino as well.
You can either base greatness off of championships or not. Can't pick and choose when it's suitable.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 4:51 pm
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:50 pm to ItsThatDude12
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You can either base greatness off of championships or not. Can't pick and choose when it's suitable.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:51 pm to boom roasted
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You can either base greatness off of championships or not. Can't pick and choose when it's suitable.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:52 pm to ItsThatDude12
Manning is tGOAT
at choking in the playoffs
at choking in the playoffs
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:52 pm to ItsThatDude12
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You can either base greatness off of championships or not. Can't pick and choose when it's suitable.
Can't it be one factor out of many?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:52 pm to ItsThatDude12
I'll immediately concede that Manning is the greatest human ever to walk the Earth if you promise that these threads will stop. 
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:54 pm to Nonetheless
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Can't it be one factor out of many?
That's what I was thinking.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:55 pm to ItsThatDude12
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You can either base greatness off of championships or not. Can't pick and choose when it's suitable.
Why must it be absolute?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:55 pm to Nonetheless
No, championships are the product of great teams imo.
One man can't win it all at anything. Circumstances are everything.
I'm not even a big manning guy, just making a point.
One man can't win it all at anything. Circumstances are everything.
I'm not even a big manning guy, just making a point.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:59 pm to LL012697
Because if you're gonna say championships make you great or not then you gotta take Warren Moon and Marino out of the discussion.
Gotta keep it consistent, either it makes you great or it doesn't.
Gotta keep it consistent, either it makes you great or it doesn't.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:59 pm to ItsThatDude12
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No, championships are the product of great teams imo.
Even if this was true, why does it have to be so absolute?
If championships are truly the sole product of great teams, why do you allow for the possibility of basing "greatness off of championships or not"?
Not every team is the same. There has to be some flexibility as not all QBs had exactly the same productivity as others. Did Dilfer has as big of an impact on winning a superbowl with the Ravens as Aaron Rodgers did for the Packers? Of course not - so you can't be so absolute and view super bowl winning QBs as equals.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:59 pm to ItsThatDude12
you're an idiot
Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:01 pm to TH03
Great thought out response.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:03 pm to ItsThatDude12
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Because if you're gonna say championships make you great or not then you gotta take Warren Moon and Marino out of the discussion.
Gotta keep it consistent, either it makes you great or it doesn't.
Who said Payton Manning wasn't great?
The debate centers around whether or not he was the greatest.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:03 pm to ItsThatDude12
forgetting someone?
Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:04 pm to ItsThatDude12
I can get behind this 
Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The point was that if SuperBowl victories define a guys career then TB has to be in the discussion.
Montanas named gets tossed around on the reg but people forget Bradshaw.
Montanas named gets tossed around on the reg but people forget Bradshaw.
Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:06 pm to ItsThatDude12
But why can't it be a factor? Not saying championships are the end all but to act like postseason performance has no bearing on the discussion is wrong too IMO
Posted on 2/3/14 at 5:07 pm to Walking the Earth
The point is before yesterdays game he was argubly the GOAT and people would crown him after the BRONCOS won, now after a miserable game he's not even in the conversation.
He was already a SuperBowl Mvp.
He was already a SuperBowl Mvp.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 5:11 pm
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