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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:36 am to lsufball19
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:36 am to lsufball19
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Yes he is a criminal, but he did not commit a crime that warrants him serving half of his adult life in jail. That is not justice
Calm down. The dude, if he gets anything more from Louisiana, will have some kind of probation added to his sentence which will be a good thing for those of us who choose not to break into homes at night, steal things, and sexually abuse women.
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:52 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Give the guy probation in La.
Ummm, they did that already.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think the time fits the crime. My point is that HE KNEW if he broke his probation he'd be looking at prison time in La.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:59 am to Ed Osteen
Nope, but I'm sure some women do.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:00 pm to ChanBenoit
The woman in BR who killed and got the privileged treatment comes to mind.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:03 pm to LSU Groupee
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The dude, if he gets anything more from Louisiana, will have some kind of probation added to his sentence which will be a good thing for those of us who choose not to break into homes at night, steal things, and sexually abuse women.
and he served the entirety of a 13 year sentence for that in prison. at what point to you think someone has payed their debt to society?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:08 pm to blackjackjackson
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Collins is living in Florida under a 9 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew. He agreed to waive his right to challenge extradition from Florida to Louisiana if East Baton Rouge Parish prosecutors won their appeal.
Why would he agree to waive his right to challenge extradition?
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The state 1st Circuit Court of Appeal reversed Caldwell in September, and the state Supreme Court affirmed the reversal by denying Collins’ appeal Jan. 17.
“We need to schedule a (probation revocation) hearing,” Bernie said, adding she has spoken with Collins’ attorney, Rodney Baum, and Caldwell’s office.
Baum contends Collins has been punished significantly already.
In the Baton Rouge cases, Collins pleaded guilty in April 1999 to two felony counts of unauthorized entry of an inhabited dwelling and two misdemeanor counts of simple battery.
Can he successfully argue for time served, even though it was in FL?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 12:46 pm to blackjackjackson
Probation violations carry longer sentences. He didnt get all this time just for breaking into a house. Get your shite straight people.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 1:01 pm to The Mick
He was suspended 3 times in high school and was protected to a great degree it seems. He gets to LSU and fails the initial drug test and also couldn't qualify academically. Then the two FELONY arrests (with a few misdemeanors thrown in) and he gets off with a light probation. He finally gets busted (and pretty harshly, yes) in Fla.
There is no arguing that he was a great back and was a joy to watch him rushing. But why are so many making it sound like he's getting the short end of the stick on all of this? He seems to simply not care about the consequences of his actions...even when it is spelled out clear as day for him.
There is no arguing that he was a great back and was a joy to watch him rushing. But why are so many making it sound like he's getting the short end of the stick on all of this? He seems to simply not care about the consequences of his actions...even when it is spelled out clear as day for him.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 1:23 pm to htownjeep
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There is no arguing that he was a great back and was a joy to watch him rushing. But why are so many making it sound like he's getting the short end of the stick on all of this? He seems to simply not care about the consequences of his actions...even when it is spelled out clear as day for him.
I only think he's getting the short end of the stick if he's required to serve additional jail time in LA. There are plenty of repeat felons who don't actually serve all 13 years of their sentence in prison. I see it literally every day at my job. There are guys with countless felonies and criminal histories so long it's blows my mind, yet they rarely serve as much as 10 years behind bars, and many of these are crimes involving firearms, rape, and much more serious offenses. One thing that hurt Cecil is I assume he didn't take a plea bargain because of his NFL career, which actually hurt him in the long run when he was found guilty. 90+% of those charged with felonies plead out and receive vastly reduced sentences.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 1/31/14 at 1:45 pm to lsufball19
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I only think he's getting the short end of the stick if he's required to serve additional jail time in LA.
You mean he's getting the short end of the stick if La enforces the agreement that he had with them?
La. let him walk and that entitled him to go enjoy a NFL career. He made a bad life choice and decided that burglary was more important. Can nobody see that this guy is a habitual offender and can't stop getting into trouble?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 1:48 pm to The Mick
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Probation violations carry longer sentences. He didnt get all this time just for breaking into a house. Get your shite straight people.
He served his time. What are you talking about? The issue is they want to extend his time, but he didn't commit any other crimes in jail that would give them to right to add more time.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 1:51 pm to htownjeep
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You mean he's getting the short end of the stick if La enforces the agreement that he had with them?
are you being obtuse just to be obtuse? he only served 13 years for the crime committed in Florida because of that agreement he had in LA. Unless you are naive and think that he would have received a 13 year prison sentence regardless, he has already been punished severely for violating the terms of his probated sentence in LA.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 1:56 pm to shutterspeed
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They've really stuck it to this guy.
that's what happens when you frick with very influential people.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:17 pm to glenoaks
Yes he did actually. Everyone forgetting masterbated on a female co while in jail
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:22 pm to deNYEd
People who know him personally say he is where belongs because he will not change. Sad.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:25 pm to deNYEd
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Everyone forgetting masterbated on a female co while in jail
And that probably kept him from getting out earlier in Fla. but that wouldn't be why LA would send him to prison.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:07 pm to lsufball19
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are you being obtuse just to be obtuse?
I'm not being anything. I'm just simply stating that this is all on him. Everyone is "poor cecil" but he did this shite to himself. Don't break into people's homes and you won't have a problem.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 3:15 pm to NOSTRODAMUS
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People who know him personally say he is where belongs because he will not change. Sad.
Word from Deridder is he'd been in jail before college if it wasn't for the fact that he was good at football.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:02 pm to htownjeep
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Everyone is "poor cecil" but he did this shite to himself. Don't break into people's homes and you won't have a problem.
really went out on a limb there. Glad you pointed that out.
regardless, people shouldn't be endlessly and unjustly punished for their crimes. He served his time, and a long time for the offense. He's paid his debt to society. No one is saying "poor cecil" like he shouldn't have ever gone to jail. They're saying he doesn't deserve any more jail time than what he's already done. His crimes do not come with a lifetime sentence and shouldn't. Thinking it would be unjust to have him serve additional time on top of what he's already served is not the same thing as feeling sorry he ever had to serve in the first place.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 4:07 pm to lsufball19
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at what point to you think someone has payed their debt to society?
When the courts say so.
This is not an uncommon happening when you have a thug breaking the law in two different jurisdictions. No matter what Florida did to him, his breaking his court probation in Louisiana has to be adjudicated by the Louisiana court. It seems as if the state wants some punishment for him because of his breaking the probation they awarded him. Probably more probation.
I don't have a problem with a two time offender getting more court supervision. When you break into homes at night when you know someone will be in those homes sleeping, you are a dangerous dude. As far as I am concerned, the more court supervision he gets the better it is for the public.
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