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is the following picture true?

Posted on 1/29/14 at 11:45 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 11:45 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 11:47 pm to
I'm inclined to believe it if Cato is saying it.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 11:51 pm to
I don't think it's entirely true, there are some issues that make it a complex issue to dissect.

But the main point shouldn't be lost. The constant finger pointing, mostly by conservatives, at welfare recipients is purposely branded into that ideology to keep attention away from white collar welfare.

There are points to be made about job creation ect.

But the truth is there is a ton of aid in various forms going to large corporations. A company like Wal-Mart would never have been capable of doing what they've done without the role of government aid.
This post was edited on 1/29/14 at 11:53 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 11:55 pm to
True. I think even the MTV show the "Jersey Shore" received government tax breaks.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 1/29/14 at 11:57 pm to
I like how they made sure to show a white family on food stamps.
Posted by sparkinator
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:03 am to
While the pic may be true, it is most likely disingenuous.

The food stamp amount is most likely money spent, vs. the corporate subsidies being money not collected.

Certainly an apples to oranges comparison.

Posted by sugar71
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:05 am to
quote:

I like how they made sure to show a white family on food stamps.


Board obssesses over race.

Most Food stamp/welfare recipients are White. What's the problem ?
Posted by Yung_Humma
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:09 am to
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This post was edited on 6/14/16 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Cockopotamus
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:19 am to
duh

Although the point that most of the subsidies are taxes not collected rather than money given out is probably true.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:23 am to
quote:

I like how they made sure to show a white family on food stamps.

Don't be a fool, there is significant number of more white trash flashing the La Purchase card than black trash
Posted by sugar71
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:32 am to
The left has been pointing this out for years. Food stamps,AfDC,public housing,etc...are less than 2% of the US budget, but recipients are villainized by the right.
Corporations however..(Agribusiness is doing especially well according to the TD board).
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:44 am to
An example of an angle often overlooked on this issue would be the millions of weekly shoppers who spend their food stamps at Wal-Mart, greatly boosting the health of the Wal-Mart brand, allowing them to continue to grow.



Posted by ninthward
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:35 am to
the White House as a source LOL
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:47 am to
Cost?

What cost? Welfare is taking from one and giving to another.


'Corporate Subsidies' is nothing more than the govt giving back something that wasn't there's to take in the first place for the allusion of appearing to do good to joe average taxpayer because of an over burdensome tax code.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:50 am to
quote:

Food stamps,AfDC,public housing,etc...are less than 2% of the US budget,
Why do you keep repeating this?


link
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:52 am to
I had no idea pensions were as high or higher than defense and healthcare
Posted by EST
Investigating
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 5:30 am to
Corporate welfare needs to completely stop.

Food Stamps need to be earned by those who receive them through community service.

How hard is that to accomplish?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 5:55 am to


This 566,679 million dollars of government assistance. You see that is 567 Billion dollars of money spent in 2013. So, to put a picture out that depicts food stamps only costing little is disingenuous.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:00 am to
quote:

Anti-Poverty Spending
In FY 2011, the total cost of federal and state means-tested welfare programs reached $927 billion, an all-time high. Welfare spending has increased 16-fold since the federal government began the “War on Poverty” in the 1960s and is projected only to increase. This does not include spending on Social Security and Medicare.
Today, there are roughly 80 federal means-tested welfare programs, including major programs like Medicaid, food stamps, the refundable Earned Income Tax Credit, public housing, Supplemental Security Income, and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.
Food stamps is one of the largest and fastest-growing means-tested welfare programs. Costs have doubled in inflation-adjusted terms since 2008. In 2012, approximately 47 million Americans received food stamps every month.
Total welfare spending should be rolled back to pre-recession (FY 2007) levels once employment rates recover, and similar to the welfare reforms of 1996, work requirements for able-bodied adults should be inserted into welfare programs like food stamps.


This is from the same source and talks to changing the way we deal with food stamp and welfare recipients.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:52 am to
Not even close to true. On the left you have the count of a true outflow (meaning money coming from a citizen, going to DC, then going to someone else [after DC's cut off the top]). On the right you have a number that for the most part never hits DC.

If politicians make a tax code change that says the corporate tax rate is 35% and here are incentive you can use to lower your rate and a company utilizes those incentives there is not a cost to taxpayers in the same sense as on the left.

If you are going to account for things as the meme suggests, you at least have to off set the number on the right accounting for increased income taxes paid by employees who are employed because of the health of the corporation due to the incentives in the tax code.
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