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Reduced Recoil Question

Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:01 am
Posted by WRedmondsStang
Member since Sep 2012
460 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:01 am
Debating between a 308 and 7mm-08 and looking for recoil comparisons between the two as well as how each will compare to a standard 243 recoil???
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:02 am to
7mm-08 will have less recoil than a 308. I believe it will have more than a 243 though.
Posted by WRedmondsStang
Member since Sep 2012
460 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:03 am to
i expected the 7mm-08 to have a little less than 308 but was curious to specific ppounds. From what I understand both are equal or less than 243 standard load.
Posted by WRedmondsStang
Member since Sep 2012
460 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:08 am to
I had actually settled on 7mm-08 but it appearsa that 308 ammo is much more abundant. ???-
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58107 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:10 am to
The recoil will go

.308

.243/7 mm

As to your question about ammo that is the issue with 7mm compared to a .243/.308

ETA: I will say the 7 mm 08 is a very underrated deer rifle
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 11:11 am
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1313 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:14 am to
The 7mm-08' had a mild recoil that is a little bit more than a .243 Win. and less than most loads in a .308 Win.

A common bullet load in the 7-08 is 140g while the 243 it is around 100g.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:17 am to
From Chuckhawks...

Caliber Recoil Energy
7mm-08 120gr 12.1 lbs
.308 150gr 15.8 lbs

it will change with Rifle weight and bullet weight

Chuckhawks Recoil Chart
This post was edited on 1/24/14 at 11:18 am
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:20 am to
quote:

I had actually settled on 7mm-08 but it appearsa that 308 ammo is much more abundant. ???-


ive had a tough time finding a box or reduced recoil 7-08
Posted by 15sammy34
Auburn, AL
Member since Oct 2011
16137 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:37 am to
I honestly can't even tell the difference, although the 7mm/08 should theoretically be softer.
Posted by WRedmondsStang
Member since Sep 2012
460 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:38 am to
i began looking for ammo after settling on a Savage 11 youth 7mm-08, and the reduced recoil loads are scarce.

anyone have any experiences finding ammo for 7-08 using reduced recoil ???
Posted by WRedmondsStang
Member since Sep 2012
460 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:46 am to
i expected there would be very little difference, but did not know the exact pounds of each which is why I asked.

I am beginning to lean 308 over 7mm-08 simply because of the ammo issue I have seemingly encountered in 7mm-08.
Posted by jack6294
Greater Baton Rouge Area
Member since Jan 2007
4033 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:51 am to
Just get a heavier gun.

Really you only notice recoil when you're practicing or sighting in your scope

Never noticed recoil when shooting at a deer
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

i expected the 7mm-08 to have a little less than 308 but was curious to specific ppounds. From what I understand both are equal or less than 243 standard load.

W/o looking up the specific info, you're pretty much right, although the differnces are small. Of course, it changes w/ full power loads. The factors included in the forumula to calculate recoil are amount of powder, bullet wt and gun wt. As the first two go up, so does recoil; as the latter goes up, recoil goes down.

243 Win full power recoil > 7-08 Rem reduced recoil load > 308 Win reduced recoil load.

308 Win full power load recoil > 7-08 Rem full power load recoil > 243 Win full power load recoil.

As far as ammo availability, I always heard how prevalent 7-08 ammo was, but didn't look until this year. I realize things were screwy this year. Nevertheless, at my small town WM, there was very little 243 (only one load sold, Federal Fusion), ZERO 7-08 of any kind (not even a label on the shelf for it) and a fair amount of 308 Win, full power only. You'll have to order the managed recoil loads. I can't speak to the availability of the reduced recoil loads from online sources.
Posted by WRedmondsStang
Member since Sep 2012
460 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 3:18 pm to
thanks for the insightful reply. I actually found a box of 7-08 managed recoil at a local store. Scooped it up since my wife has a 7-08 that she never uses. I am still debating 7-08/308 purchase,figure if I go with the 308, I can still start the boys out on her 7-08, so wouldnt hurt to have a few boxes anyway.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 4:36 pm to
To put in perspective one of the golden rules of physics:

"For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction."

So using this, if the bullet is heavier (using the same powder charge) it is more likely to recoil more.

All of those rounds share the same parent case (308 win). Where they differ is bullet size.

243 Win = 6mm
260 Rem = 6.5mm
7mm-08 = 7mm
308 = 7.62mm
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

I am still debating 7-08/308 purchase

You really can't go wrong either way. When I bought my 11 y/o son his first deer rifle, my two finalists were the 7-08 and 308. I went w/ the latter because I already had bullets, powder and dies to handload the 308, but not the 7-08. This was before the days of factory reduced recoil loads so I planned on working up my own. Reduced recoil loads can be VERY deadly and are appropriate for 90% of the distances at which most deer are killed. I got my first 7-08 this summer, a Remington XP-100. Managed to kill one deer w/ it. It's a NICE shooting deer round.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:18 pm to
Everyone around me is hunting with 08's now , not sure why
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

I will say the 7 mm 08 is a very underrated deer rifle


I don't think so. I don't think I've ever heard anybody say it was not a fantastic deer caliber.

Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4299 posts
Posted on 1/24/14 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

quote:I will say the 7 mm 08 is a very underrated deer rifle I don't think so. I don't think I've ever heard anybody say it was not a fantastic deer caliber.


If I lost my 270, I would replace it with a 7-08 or 260.

7-08 is lower recoil than 308, but higher recoil than 243. It is just as effective as 308, and will have fewer "shot selection issues" as 243.
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