Holding off on going after big time players....

No one will be able to answer this because they don't know what's going on at coaches meetings.

They play it the best they can tell based off of reactions and what they are told.

I will imagine strategies will change in the upcoming year.



BUT, to also add, guys like Carter would not affect LA kids. Carter is a NSD type kid as are most big time players. Thus, we wouldn't be able to say "see ya" to LA kids if they didn't jump on the bus.

The expectations around this year's class were ridiculous given the significant level of instate town. Unfortunately, our staff was in the unenviable position of waiting in these guys to commit and was actually lied to by a couple of the recruits.

Given our success with and evolution toward a more national recruiting program, I think you will see a reevaluation of our dependence on Louisiana kids first and by getting out in front of some of the national kids earlier, it may apply greater pressure to the in state kids to commit.

Some members of the fan base seem to want it both ways. Our allegiance should be totally to the Louisiana kids; however, when that doesn't work out then Les hasn't done a good enough job because he got on out-of-state kids late. I think you will see a change in tactics relative to how we approach the in state kids going forward.

There is a wealth of talent in Louisiana and it needs to be recruited hard. However, when in state kids string you out you need to get on the out-of-state kids earlier and I think we will do that going forward.

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I'm over waiting on LA kids. You want in? Fine, commit. You don't? Well, guess what, we're moving on.

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Don't think this will go over well with a number of Louisiana high schools.

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Don't think this will go over well with a number of Louisiana high schools.

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of course it won't. They want the best of both worlds. They want that LSU scholarship but they also want to look around. If we get burned, they seem to forget it. If we don't offer a player, they get upset.

At some point, these HSs have to realize their logic is messed up.

Comments by Duckie and Double Down are right on, in my opinion. Go after the Louisiana kids first and give them a chance to get on board. If summer hits and they are stringing us out and Alabama is in the mix, tell them that we want them and there is a place for them, but we are not jeopardizing our program in this waiting game. We've been messed over too many times to keep doing this.

And, yes, with the handlers and money flowing, I am convinced that other coaches and people connected with these kids are encouraging them to lie and lead LSU on.

When you look at Landon Collins, Janzen Jackson, Kenny Bell, Toshiro Davis, Cameron Robinson, Hootie Jones, Gerald Willis, and Speedy Noil, all of them either lied to coaches, flipped on signing day, or led coaches to believe that they were headed to LSU or it was 50-50 only to later say they decided on their school two years ago and LSU was never in it. Hootie Jones opens his commitment up again right when LSU goes after Adams. Explain that. Then, he recommits to Alabama.

You can add Tony Brown to that, even though he is from Texas, when you look at his recruitment.

I actually have a lot of respect for Denzall Devall and hope he does well in life and in football. He handled it right.

There is a "screw LSU" strategy going on and top
Louisiana kids are buying into it and apparently think it is cool.

I don't mind kids going elsewhere. They can do what they want. Just stop the lying.

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Go after the Louisiana kids first and give them a chance to get on board. If summer hits and they are stringing us out and Alabama is in the mix, tell them that we want them and there is a place for them, but we are not jeopardizing our program in this waiting game. We've been messed over too many times to keep doing this.

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Y'all are actually acting like this would matter to all kids. What's to keep kids from committing in the summer and still looking around? Do you pull a committed 5-star stud's schollie offer if he takes an unofficial to Bama in November?

Saban tries to fend this off with his if-you-uncommit-or-visit-we-pull-it attitude, but obviously he's all bark and no bite with that, too. See Hootie, Dwight, and others.

You have to do your best to read people. Some guys who commit in the summer are solid and you can just feel it. Others, not so much. YOu have to keep the ear of other OOS studs just in case. But, how committable do you make that offer if you already have an in-state stud commit who is keeping you up at night?

It is a tough game.

"My word is oak, Jerry."

With Willis, I believe he told LSU he was coming then a last ditch effort by the brother (who has intense hatred for LSU) and FL offering the mom a job and relocating expenses.

Brown was a flat out liar to the staff. But when Bama dollars come into play....

Noil has been enamored with A&M for a long time. The writing has been on the wall.

Some people may not like what I have to say, although LSU certainly needs more 'guns', it needs a guy like Richard Gill more.

Noil told Frank that morning he was going to LSU.

They all lied. Crob lied too saying it was up in the air when he had been Bama all along. Hootie lied when he reopened his commitment. LSU coaches saw through it, though, and stuck with Adams.

It is a strategy by other coaches/programs and apparently the kids enjoy it.

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and stuck with Adams.

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Adams was higher on their board with or without Hootie reopening his recruitment.