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Dr RC
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How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


It's an open dirty secret here in Dallas that June Jones given not one frick about SMU football ever since he tried to run off to Arizona State.

Countless Texas HS coaches will tell you that June never shows up on campus and never calls any of their kids. Even players who want to go to SMU never get calls and actually have to sell themselves by sending June videos.

This doesn't just pertain to schools outside of DFW either. Local 5A Division II Cedar Hill just won the state title. How many times has June been on that campus in the 6 years he has been HC at SMU? ONCE.

Here is how SMU has recruited CH players like WR 4 star DeMarkus Lodge this season.
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It’s not often SMU sends out offers to Cedar Hill players despite the fact that the Longhorns constantly produce some of the top talent in the metroplex. Oklahoma pledge Marcus Green was even quoted saying that quarterbacks coach Dan Morrison told him ‘he didn’t even know he was recruiting Cedar Hill.’

And it’s clear the Mustangs are late to the game with Lodge. So do they still have a chance?

I didn’t even know SMU had offered me until my dad told me. If he wouldn’t have told me, I wouldn’t have even known,” Lodge said. “I haven’t talked to any of their coaches so it was a surprise to me."


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This is a normal thing. The word given by people who have talked to SMU AD is June says it takes too much energy to recruit 3 stars and up b/c they probably wont land them. WTF? How can you EVER land a kid if you don't even talk to him and build a relationship?

Somehow June has some pretty strong defenders at SMU even though it's blatant he is just cashing it in as a lame duck coach. There was a Tim Cowlishaw article in the Dallas Morning News that seemed like a planted puff piece to help June with his contract extension. The ever observant Timmy believes that June is the Tony Romo of SMU football somehow not getting the respect he deserves for leading a pile of poo to a better than it really is record. He reasons that since SMU was so god awful before, it must mean that June is a miracle worker to get them to 4 bowls in a row.

Of course Tim ignores that SMU was openly hostile to football for nearly 20 years after the death penalty and only recently began to relax standards with athletes. He also conventionality forgets SMU actually had started to turn things around under Mike Cavan before regressing somewhat under Phil Bennett and neither of those guys got anywhere near the same support for the school that June gets. Hell, June's $2 million salary alone would have paid for most of Cavan's staff. Also, never mind how there are 35 bowls now and that a 6-6 2012 SMU team would have been left out of a bowl had they been in the 2006 6-6 or 1997 6-5 SMU's shoes.


How long will June be able to keep people from looking behind the curtain and seeing a fat tired old man who just doesn't care anymore?





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bencoleman
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


Who is June Jones?





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veerbone
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


He's that guy that coaches at that place





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tmc94
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I'm not plugged into SMU at all but last year it was not exactly a secret that the boosters went to war about Jones. Some don't think they can do better but at $2m annually, they definitely could imo.

The concern seems to be if they went and hired an up and comer like Chad Morris that he'd bolt for a bigger gig in a few years. With Jones, he's probably done with that. I don't get that thought process, especially since Jones took the ASU job last year, but that seems to be where they are. They want their own Gary Patterson who will stay for 10-15 years.






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Dr RC
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


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I'm not plugged into SMU at all but last year it was not exactly a secret that the boosters went to war about Jones. Some don't think they can do better but at $2m annually, they definitely could imo.

The concern seems to be if they went and hired an up and comer like Chad Morris that he'd bolt for a bigger gig in a few years. With Jones, he's probably done with that. I don't get that thought process, especially since Jones took the ASU job last year, but that seems to be where they are. They want their own Gary Patterson who will stay for 10-15 years.


I think my thinking is in line with yours.

If June was only making something like $1million per, I'd think he would deserve some slack. But he isn't. He is making more than several BCS conference coaches. While they made those bowls, they have only beat a few teams under Jones that had winning records and whenever they play BCS schools they get dominated.

I also don't understand why they would worry about a Chad Morris leaving. So what? Coahces leave. Its rare to get a lifer at big time school let aone at a place like SMU. Get the young gun to get things really humming so they will be able to grab the next good young regional coaching hire the way Houston did with Briles -> Sumlin ->Levine. That is a way more realistic approach than doubling down on a guy that already tried to run out on them and doesn't give a flip about recruiting.

It's just sad to watch.






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cardboardboxer
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


That whole ASU thing was weird. They buyout was the given reason it didn't work out, but I think fan backlash is why ASU didn't try to overcome that hurdle.

I think June is not a bad coach. He has gotten more out of GG than any coach since high school. But you are correct his recruiting stinks- only one three star in the current class.






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jlc05
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


I think June should stay but there needs to be a come to jesus mtg about their recruiting. I dont think they can do much better than June and keep that coach inplace for the long haul





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Dr RC
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I dont think they can do much better than June and keep that coach inplace for the long haul


June didn't want to stay for the long haul either. I think if they remain willing to pay $2 million for a coach there are plenty of really good coaches they could get who are as good or better than June.

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I think June should stay but there needs to be a come to jesus mtg about their recruiting.


here is another recent story I've come across.

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Richard Moore says the offer from the Ponies came as a huge surprise.

“It was crazy because I’ve never heard from any of the SMU coaches. I haven’t even gotten any mail or anything,” Moore said. “My high school coach actually texted me about it while I was in class. When I looked at it, I said ‘oh crap,’ and everybody looked at me. It was pretty funny. I was just excited.”


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June is extremely lucky this part of the story is currently behind a pay-wall on a different site.

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"I actually saw that they had offered me on Twitter and then a couple of days later my coach talked to the staff and they told him they were offering me so I knew it was real after that."


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Sevendust912
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


June is a very over rated coach IMO





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Platinum
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


SMU is big money school. If I was a two star athlete that knew I wasn't pro football caliber, I'd seriously consider the school. Great education.





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ShaneTheLegLechler
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


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That is a way more realistic approach than doubling down on a guy that already tried to run out on them and doesn't give a flip about recruiting.


I was about to post the UH example in here as a response to your OP and saw you brought it up. This is a great approach for a school like SMU or UH to take. They've kept the same system in place basically as well which promotes the same type of continuity. And they're still winning games

It's funny that they want someone like Patterson at TCU. The only reason Patterson is still there is because of the deal he has worked out, and I doubt the same type of deal would be allowed at SMU considering their past. The school has a lot to offer to that middle tier of Texas recruits. Located in Dallas, gorgeous campus, neat little game day atmosphere on campus that is very good for a mid major, good education and networking after school and they've been running a wide open offense that vibes with what is being run in most Texas high schools



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VerlanderBEAST
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


He's a phenomenal football coach who doesn't give a crap about recruiting.





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wildtigercat93
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


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He's a phenomenal football coach who doesn't give a crap about recruiting.


Sounds like me on NCAA


Nobody got time to call 40 prospect every week. Im about to hang 50 on Bama






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Big12fan
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


They got W's Liberry now. They don't need no stinkin football team.





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Overbrook
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


But that's easily fixable.
Just hire a bunch of recruiters for your staff.






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JohnnyBob
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


Isn't the air raid master, Hal Mumme on staff? Let him run the show.





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Overbrook
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


Mumme is the head coach at Belhaven I believe.





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evangelfan
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


Mumme just left to HC job at Belhaven. Jones is safe until the boosters start to demand that an emphasis for improvement starts to be the mantra for the football program there.

They could recruit 3's and maybe a 4 or two all day long just selling the education to guys that know the NFL is not in their future, as that is a strong degree to leave with.






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TigerBait2008
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re: How long will SMU allow June Jones to steal $2 million (base!) a year?


Not near as bad as sumlin stealing from anm I guess...





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