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Jimmy Graham
Posted on 1/21/14 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 1/21/14 at 6:20 pm
What happens if he and the Saints do not come to an agreement after next year? What do the Saints do to replace him, if they can replace his talent? Does he want that much money to where they rather let him walk than pay him?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 6:24 pm to Camo Tiger 337
We will have a year to see. If he does not get more aggressive let him walk if he is wanting to much money.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 6:30 pm to MISSIPSAINT
While I see the good defense that N.E. and Seattle put on him, I also see how he doesn't come up big in all the big games. If he doesn't change by next year, i'd hate to see him walk but he needs to earn the big money if that's what he wants.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 6:31 pm to goatmilker
No shite didn't hear his name much in the playoffs
Posted on 1/21/14 at 6:39 pm to MISSIPSAINT
I think his foot bothered him more than they led on.
He does need to become a serviceable run blocker though.
He does need to become a serviceable run blocker though.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 6:47 pm to Camo Tiger 337
He just needs to be more physical on short routes. He is really raw just needs to use his length better and get stronger.
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 1/21/14 at 6:57 pm to DeathValley85
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I think his foot bothered him more than they led on.
Agreed. Plantar Fasciatis(sp) is painful, I know first hand.
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He does need to become a serviceable run blocker though.
Yes, he has to complete his game and become tougher. As in no more alligator arms before he gets paid big money.
I think CSP would deal him if he doesn't improve.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:07 pm to Kcrad
I'm a big JG critic, but I'm thinking he wasn't in on most run plays was to prevent any further injury to his foot. possible?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:11 pm to Kcrad
I recently proposed this as a viable, if not possible plan-
At #27 draft TE Ebron or Amaro in the draft. One or both will likely be available. Franchise Tag Graham.
Result- A) You create a Gronk/Hernandez type threat. Payton would go nuts with these play designs. B) It gives you another year to fully judge if Graham is a guy you want to build the farm on. You can only afford a half dozen or so of these type players. C) If you decide no on Graham long term, you have a viable replacement (as a single primary TE) already in place.
At #27 draft TE Ebron or Amaro in the draft. One or both will likely be available. Franchise Tag Graham.
Result- A) You create a Gronk/Hernandez type threat. Payton would go nuts with these play designs. B) It gives you another year to fully judge if Graham is a guy you want to build the farm on. You can only afford a half dozen or so of these type players. C) If you decide no on Graham long term, you have a viable replacement (as a single primary TE) already in place.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:12 pm to Kcrad
I just don't see the "trade" or "deal him" at this point with J.G.
A lot of posters and threads mention this without noting ever, who holds all the cards. Initials are J.G.
He's a FA. Sure you can tag but folks, teams will wait you out for one year before they give the blood of teams(draft pics) or quality players. It truly is NOT Madden 2014.
A lot of posters and threads mention this without noting ever, who holds all the cards. Initials are J.G.
He's a FA. Sure you can tag but folks, teams will wait you out for one year before they give the blood of teams(draft pics) or quality players. It truly is NOT Madden 2014.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:14 pm to Camo Tiger 337
I see this being like the Brees situation. There is no way that JG will be leaving and it's just a matter of getting the #s right which could get heated given the WR/TE debate, etc.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:15 pm to MISSIPSAINT
#15 out of the top 20 in receiving yards. Top in TD's. I would call that pretty aggressive.
The other 19 are WR's. You have to go all the way down to #30-Jordan Cameron to find another tight end.
I don't think people understand he is not a WR.
Saints need another playmaker on the field so the D can't give up the extra defender to double him.
Jimmy was not the only problem in the post season. I honestly can't understand all of the posts asking if we should let him walk.
The other 19 are WR's. You have to go all the way down to #30-Jordan Cameron to find another tight end.
I don't think people understand he is not a WR.
Saints need another playmaker on the field so the D can't give up the extra defender to double him.
Jimmy was not the only problem in the post season. I honestly can't understand all of the posts asking if we should let him walk.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:18 pm to htran90
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I'm a big JG critic, but I'm thinking he wasn't in on most run plays was to prevent any further injury to his foot. possible?
I'm thinking he was out for running plays because he's not a good blocker. He can re-injure his foot running a pass route.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:18 pm to htran90
Don't agree . He had he had two great g games s get the diagnose
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:22 pm to blueslover
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At #27 draft TE Ebron or Amaro in the draft. One or both will likely be available. Franchise Tag Graham.
Would add a weapon to the off and help the TE position moving into 2015.
As a bonus the board would go FULL meltdown
Could see it.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:31 pm to Kcrad
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I'm thinking he was out for running plays because he's not a good blocker. He can re-injure his foot running a pass route.
we all know he is pretty bad in run blocking, but even to create 'an element of surprise' in previous years we've used him in running plays as well.
I'm thinking it was to hold him out on unnecessary contact. the foot issue is seeming like a bigger deal than any of us know.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:35 pm to goatmilker
it's Payton crazy enough to imagine it anyway
Either one of these guys- Ebron or Amaro. Neither are much on blocking either but they are even more freakishly WR swift/smooth than Graham. Really just WRs in TE bodies.
Either one of these guys- Ebron or Amaro. Neither are much on blocking either but they are even more freakishly WR swift/smooth than Graham. Really just WRs in TE bodies.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:36 pm to blueslover
I saw Amaro in Techs bowl game and jeez that dude was a beast.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:38 pm to blueslover
Hopefully one plays basketball and the other shows a certain penchant for archery.
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