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Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:21 am to The Baker
Bill Maher is a POS. Facts don't matter to him. He's only interested in his party.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:08 am to The Baker
Maher said that Stevens bears "some" responsibility. I know your wishes about a "scandal" have crumbled, but why don't you try to set your partisan disappointment aside for a second and tell us how what Maher said is not factual.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:10 am to The Baker
Without reading the link, the piece you quoted is correct
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:15 am to jamboybarry
The only way that Stevens bears any responsibility is if he was given the option or order to evacuate and refused to do so on his own. Otherwise, he was doing his job and doing the best he could. Sure, he trusted militias that couldn't be trusted. But, what else was he supposed to do? His own country abandoned him.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:18 am to The Baker
He also trusted the state department to do their job in implementing proper security measures. So what percent is Hillary to blame Mr Maher?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:20 am to Rex
Why does it matter is coming to bite your bitch in the arse and it will not be done with enough jaw force when delivered for idiots like you(the usual suspects included).
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:38 am to The Baker
Unbelievable! Applying Maher's logic we would have been better off with less security. And Stevens' desire for more security was the cause for Benghazi. Maybe Maher can convince the Secret Service this makes sense for the President. He would be better off with less security. It is only the presence of the security personnel that makes him a potential target. I'm willing to bet Obama buys off on the idea.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:41 am to Rex
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Maher said that Stevens bears "some" responsibility. I know your wishes about a "scandal" have crumbled
Seriously, do you think if you repeat this with enough frequency it will magically become true?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:46 am to The Baker
I was just cracking up a few months ago when Howard Stern was CRUSHING Bill Maher, and Bill didn't say shite because it would dig up something he doesn't want to address.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:48 am to Rex
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:48 am to The Baker
Him being the victim of a stroke on the set would be a fitting end to his career. ABC made the right move when they fired him, the idiots that followed him to HBO are nothing but rabid dogs for all things leftist in nature. The panels on the show are nothing but knob polishers to him and the DNC.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:49 am to The Baker
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Bill Maher blames Benghazi on deceased Ambassador Stevens
Par for the course from a classless POS. It's well documented that Stevens asked for additional security and in spite of multiple please by Stevens the state dept. as many as 34 security forces that might have made a difference. LINK
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:49 am to The Baker
Well, this is a classic example of the "new" democrat leadership style "The Buck Never Got Here", Bill Clinton-type thing.
In any event, Stevens was the senior man for the state department in Libya, - by definition, he he is only 2 layers removed from POTUS. He may have rejected additional uniformed military support (but his reasoning may have been to keep the visible profile low). However, he made his superiors aware of a worsening situation - and was largely ignored.
The other issue is this mission - which I still believe was a clandestine effort to arm the Syrian rebels - which went wrong. Who did the risk assessment on that? What contingency plans were in place?
We keep hearing that no military backup could have reached them, but that is flawed, retroactive analysis - and certainly no justification for not sending anyone - just that such assistance would not have made a difference.
I see Piers Morgan is also blaming Stevens for Benghazi - sounds like a pivot from "What difference does it make?" to "Stevens messed up and got himself and others killed." - All in the name of protecting POTUS and, more importantly, HRC's run in 2016.
In any event, Stevens was the senior man for the state department in Libya, - by definition, he he is only 2 layers removed from POTUS. He may have rejected additional uniformed military support (but his reasoning may have been to keep the visible profile low). However, he made his superiors aware of a worsening situation - and was largely ignored.
The other issue is this mission - which I still believe was a clandestine effort to arm the Syrian rebels - which went wrong. Who did the risk assessment on that? What contingency plans were in place?
We keep hearing that no military backup could have reached them, but that is flawed, retroactive analysis - and certainly no justification for not sending anyone - just that such assistance would not have made a difference.
I see Piers Morgan is also blaming Stevens for Benghazi - sounds like a pivot from "What difference does it make?" to "Stevens messed up and got himself and others killed." - All in the name of protecting POTUS and, more importantly, HRC's run in 2016.
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:50 am to DelU249
Do tell
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:53 am to Rex
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Maher said that Stevens bears "some" responsibility
And why is that rex?
Explain the role of career diplomats in their own security?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:55 am to The Baker
Its widely known that Stevens purposely wanted a small security detail to keep a low profile. He twice rejected the State Departments attempts to beef up his security. I guess this is what Maher is referring to.
Still, its incredibly shallow and shows a complete lack of class to blame Stevens for getting killed by terrorists. Seriously, does anyone still watch Maher anymore?
Still, its incredibly shallow and shows a complete lack of class to blame Stevens for getting killed by terrorists. Seriously, does anyone still watch Maher anymore?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:56 am to Rex
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Maher said that Stevens bears "some" responsibility. I know your wishes about a "scandal" have crumbled, but why don't you try to set your partisan disappointment aside for a second and tell us how what Maher said is not factual
Blaming a dead Ambassador to cover for your "side". New low...even for you Rex. Especially in light of your knowledge of the Senate reports b stating the administration failed to provide the security that was necessary and requested.....by the Ambassador. You should feel dirty all over knowingly lying and blaming the deceased to help your "team".
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:59 am to sammyptiger
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Its widely known that Stevens purposely wanted a small security detail to keep a low profile. He twice rejected the State Departments attempts to beef up his security. I guess this is what Maher is referring to.
Not according to the Senate report.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:04 am to The Baker
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e does bear some responsibility. I’m sorry. He put some trust in the local militias and they turned on him. Because you probably shouldn’t trust local militias in Libya.
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