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Annual facts on our gym coach-losing 80% vs. to 3 rivals in SEC for 36 years!

Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:23 pm
Posted by secman12
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:23 pm
Ok, I'm ready for the heat and support that this VERY rare thread on LSY gym team brings. If your argument is "no one cares about gym team" fine, we can agree to disagree, that is not my point..I care about all LSU sports(season tickets in 4 sports inc Gym)I care much more about FB, MB Baseball and for me WB. BUT If we have a team it should at least be a top tier SEC sport every 5 or so years. I will again present facts that clearly show this coach for 36 years, is at best average and please note I am only using facts, not going into her "likeablity, chemistry witin the AD etc." I will leave that to others..numbers are what they are, please tell me how we accept, for 36 years

(SEC has 9 teams as of 2013, but most of the past 36 years had 5-7 teams. There are 53 D1 Gym teams in country and 32 are from BCS confs, outside of SEC/PAC 12 there are few big time programs. Teams from the ACC and Big East are independents as there are not enough teams!)

* One single SEC championship in 1981 (out of 5 teams)
* We have lost 80% of our meets versus Ala, UGA and UF...80%! Over a 36 year period...
* We have finished in the bottom half of the SEC 11 of the last 14 years. Almost always ahead of Ark (had no until program 12 years ago), Aub and KY, but almost always behind UGA, Ala and UF..in a 6-7 team league.
* Last year was one of our best years, but we still finished 3rd in SEC and 5th overall. So bascially we were in top 10% of country, which is equal to being top 33 in Womens basketball and top 30 in men's..and this was one of BEST years.
* Our facilities were redone in mid 1990's and we still never won SEC and rarely challenge for it. (currently our facilties are well below the UGA and UF's and while this is often used as an excuse for DD supporters, please keep in mind she has had 36 years to win, and for much of that our facilties were competitive).
* Other programs at LSU have had at least as much success with worse facilties and lower salaries. Softball is best example-played on a temporary field for first 10 years, but won or challenged for SEC 6 of those years.

Our team, girls, program and university deserve better! I stay away from any personality issues and ask how we keep a coach (making $150k+ extras) for 36 years when she loses to our rivals 80%+ of the time? Is there ANY excuse for this. Gym is a small pond and we do not put in what Ala and some others put in, but what coach/program in any sport in SEC history goes 36 years with one title (32 years ago) in a 6-7 team conf. and losses to rivals 80%+ of the time..answer...one program only..our gym team

thanks for listeneing, I welcome any facts that support or argue either side. I know this is NOT a major concern of LSU AD and should not ever be, but does it ever get looked at?
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 4:25 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:25 pm to
you've convinced me. Fire DD.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71483 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:25 pm to
Stop it
quote:

* We have lost 80% of our matches versus Ala, UGA and UF...80%! Over a 36 year period...
* We have finished in the bottom half of the SEC 11 of the last 14 years. Almost always ahead of Ark (had no until program 12 years ago), Aub and KY, but almost always behind UGA, Ala and UF..in a 6-7 team league.
* Last year was one of our best years, but we still finished 3rd in SEC and 5th overall. So bascially we were in top 10% of country, which is equal to being top 33 in Womens basketball and top 30 in men's..and this was one of BEST years.

Conference standings and meet finishes don't mean shite. You know that. Meet score is the only thing that matters.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84943 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33442 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:30 pm to
One of my favorite threads of the year!


quote:

ask how we keep a coach (making $150k+ extras) for 36 years


She probably has more dirt on everyone in the AD, dead or alive, than we all would care to know. After the nuclear holocaust which is inevitably going to happen, all that will survive are the cockroaches, car salesmen, and DD. She will survive it all.
Posted by RGJ18
Collierville, TN
Member since Feb 2010
8669 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:36 pm to
Any activity where subjective judging determines who wins the competition is not a sport. Sorry.
Posted by STJ206
NOLA
Member since Sep 2013
131 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:41 pm to
You keep saying fire her, but I pose the same question I pose when people say fire Les:

Who do you replace her with?

The fact is she's had one of the top 5 programs in the country the last few years (yes, last year was a banner year when we made the Super 6 but we've made it quite a few times the last few years - sign she's improving as a coach?) and barring hiring the coaches away from Bama, UGA, Florida, is there really another great hire to make? Serious question here.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155357 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:42 pm to
What the fricking frick
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71483 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Who do you replace her with?


Since only 5 coaches have ever won national titles it has to be one of them.
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5454 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

I care about all LSU sports(season tickets in 4 sports inc Gym


I found the point of this thread. All hail secman12 as the ultimate LSU fan!
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127369 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

We have lost 80% of our meets versus Ala, UGA and UF...80%! Over a 36 year period...

At least 2 of these teams have won NCs.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:55 pm to
I can't believe I'm reading this. Are you serious? Conference standings?
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:56 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 4:58 pm
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136793 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 4:58 pm to
pretty sure we can hire someone for 60K to do that job

same for WBB

same for all sports that are a drain on the athletics dept.
Posted by Liberty tiger13
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2014
531 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:08 pm to
FIRE JA.....wait DD!!!
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14329 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:11 pm to
gym coach, like in PE. Ain't reading all that shite - drinking merlot and chillin - screw reading that crap.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28611 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:12 pm to
I don't know shite about gym but fire her arse.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39093 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:14 pm to
First, WTF is a gym team?

Second, after 36 years on the job maybe she's dead. That would explain the poor showings.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

Any activity where subjective judging determines who wins the competition is not a sport. Sorry.


so boxing isn't a sport?
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
Back Home now
Member since Sep 2006
61076 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 5:53 pm to
gymnastics thread w/o pics, I has sad.
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