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Oklahoma Bill to ease restrictions on imaginary guns

Posted on 1/10/14 at 7:52 am
Posted by Quidam65
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 7:52 am
In wake of the student who was suspended after chewing his pastry into the shape of the gun (oh, the horror!), Oklahoma has introduced legislation to eliminate "zero tolerance" punishment for using imaginary weapons:

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Not surprisingly, the educational establishment is appalled that their "superior training and education" is being ignored:

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"The proposed legislation removes local control from teachers, counselors, administrators and local school boards. Educators are degreed professionals, trained and experienced in dealing with children," Linda Hampton, president of the Oklahoma Education Association, told the station.


Similar legislation is being considered in Maryland (where the "pastry gun" incident took place) and in Texas (though our legislature doesn't meet again until 2015).
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:07 am to
so they are going to deregulate something that only exists in one's imagination?


Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:12 am to
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so they are going to deregulate something that only exists in one's imagination?


Hope someone gets this

Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:15 am to


I love that episode!
Posted by Lsut81
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:21 am to
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I love that episode!


They're going to nuke our imaginations
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:23 am to
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They're going to nuke our imaginations


I guess governments have quite an imagination in order to believe they can legislate imaginations.
Posted by TigerTattle
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:24 am to
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Educators are degreed professionals, trained and experienced in dealing with children," Linda Hampton, president of the Oklahoma Education


So rather than use their training and experience on a case by case basis they'd prefer a blanket regulation governing every infraction, even the pop tart, verbal "bang!" and finger pistols?

You can't make this stuff up.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80087 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:30 am to
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I guess governments have quite an imagination in order to believe they can legislate imaginations.


What scary is I read a story a few months back (vaguely remember) that talked about a city/county/state or something that was looking to implement something ala Minority Report. They could predict your likelihood of committing a crime and prosecute you for it. I'll see if I can find the story.

ETA

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An internal U.S. Department of Homeland Security document indicates that a controversial program designed to predict whether a person will commit a crime is already being tested on some members of the public voluntarily, CNET has learned.

If this sounds a bit like the Tom Cruise movie called "Minority Report," or the CBS drama "Person of Interest," it is. But where "Minority Report" author Philip K. Dick enlisted psychics to predict crimes, DHS is betting on algorithms: it's building a "prototype screening facility" that it hopes will use factors such as ethnicity, gender, breathing, and heart rate to "detect cues indicative of mal-intent."

The latest developments, which reveal efforts to "collect, process, or retain information on" members of "the public," came to light through an internal DHS document obtained under open-government laws by the Electronic Privacy Information Center. DHS calls its "pre-crime" system Future Attribute Screening Technology, or FAST.

"If it were deployed against the public, it would be very problematic," says Ginger McCall, open government counsel at EPIC, a nonprofit group in Washington, D.C.

It's unclear why the June 2010 DHS document (PDF) specified that information is currently collected or retained on members of "the public" as part of FAST, and a department representative declined to answer questions that CNET posed two days ago.
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 8:34 am
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