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Why the Web Won't Be Nirvana (1995 Article)

Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:09 am
Posted by carbola
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:09 am
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After two decades online, I'm perplexed. It's not that I haven't had a gas of a good time on the Internet. I've met great people and even caught a hacker or two. But today, I'm uneasy about this most trendy and oversold community. Visionaries see a future of telecommuting workers, interactive libraries and multimedia classrooms. They speak of electronic town meetings and virtual communities. Commerce and business will shift from offices and malls to networks and modems. And the freedom of digital networks will make government more democratic.

Baloney. Do our computer pundits lack all common sense? The truth in no online database will replace your daily newspaper, no CD-ROM can take the place of a competent teacher and no computer network will change the way government works.

Consider today's online world. The Usenet, a worldwide bulletin board, allows anyone to post messages across the nation. Your word gets out, leapfrogging editors and publishers. Every voice can be heard cheaply and instantly. The result? Every voice is heard. The cacophany more closely resembles citizens band radio, complete with handles, harrasment, and anonymous threats. When most everyone shouts, few listen. How about electronic publishing? Try reading a book on disc. At best, it's an unpleasant chore: the myopic glow of a clunky computer replaces the friendly pages of a book. And you can't tote that laptop to the beach. Yet Nicholas Negroponte, director of the MIT Media Lab, predicts that we'll soon buy books and newspapers straight over the Intenet. Uh, sure.

What the Internet hucksters won't tell you is tht the Internet is one big ocean of unedited data, without any pretense of completeness. Lacking editors, reviewers or critics, the Internet has become a wasteland of unfiltered data. You don't know what to ignore and what's worth reading. Logged onto the World Wide Web, I hunt for the date of the Battle of Trafalgar. Hundreds of files show up, and it takes 15 minutes to unravel them—one's a biography written by an eighth grader, the second is a computer game that doesn't work and the third is an image of a London monument. None answers my question, and my search is periodically interrupted by messages like, "Too many connections, try again later."

Won't the Internet be useful in governing? Internet addicts clamor for government reports. But when Andy Spano ran for county executive in Westchester County, N.Y., he put every press release and position paper onto a bulletin board. In that affluent county, with plenty of computer companies, how many voters logged in? Fewer than 30. Not a good omen.

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Then there are those pushing computers into schools. We're told that multimedia will make schoolwork easy and fun. Students will happily learn from animated characters while taught by expertly tailored software.Who needs teachers when you've got computer-aided education? Bah. These expensive toys are difficult to use in classrooms and require extensive teacher training. Sure, kids love videogames—but think of your own experience: can you recall even one educational filmstrip of decades past? I'll bet you remember the two or three great teachers who made a difference in your life.

Then there's cyberbusiness. We're promised instant catalog shopping—just point and click for great deals. We'll order airline tickets over the network, make restaurant reservations and negotiate sales contracts. Stores will become obselete. So how come my local mall does more business in an afternoon than the entire Internet handles in a month? Even if there were a trustworthy way to send money over the Internet—which there isn't—the network is missing a most essential ingredient of capitalism: salespeople.

What's missing from this electronic wonderland? Human contact. Discount the fawning techno-burble about virtual communities. Computers and networks isolate us from one another. A network chat line is a limp substitute for meeting friends over coffee. No interactive multimedia display comes close to the excitement of a live concert. And who'd prefer cybersex to the real thing? While the Internet beckons brightly, seductively flashing an icon of knowledge-as-power, this nonplace lures us to surrender our time on earth. A poor substitute it is, this virtual reality where frustration is legion and where—in the holy names of Education and Progress—important aspects of human interactions are relentlessly devalued.
Posted by Spaulding Smails
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:11 am to
The internet won't shoot itself in the face?
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:11 am to
Nailed it
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:11 am to
I need to get the Powerball numbers from that guy.
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted by MThawg
south
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:13 am to
Wow the writer really didn't see the internet getting better in the future?
In 95 no less. just wow
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:13 am to
What a dumbass!!!!
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:14 am to
Fun read.


Someone should email this article back to the author.
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:14 am to
I would say that the author of that article missed the boat.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:14 am to
He had some real points, he just drew bad conclusions from them.

1. Search results being terrible was solved by better search engines
2. Mostly secure transaction systems were put in place and ordering online was probably difficult at the time.

Why the problem he pointed out in #2 led him to conclude we need sales people I have no idea.
This post was edited on 1/9/14 at 11:16 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:15 am to
will people look at the bitcoin hate as the same in 20 years?
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:17 am to
From Wikipedia

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In his 1995 book Silicon Snake Oil,[5] and an accompanying article in Newsweek[6] Stoll called the prospect of e-commerce "baloney". Stoll also raised questions about the influence of the Internet on future society, and whether it would be beneficial. He made various predictions in the article, e.g., about e-commerce (calling it nonviable due to a lack of personal contact and secure online funds transfers) and the future of printed news publications ("no online database will replace your daily newspaper"). When the article resurfaced on BoingBoing in 2010, Stoll left a self-deprecating comment: "Of my many mistakes, flubs, and howlers, few have been as public as my 1995 howler ... Now, whenever I think I know what's happening, I temper my thoughts: Might be wrong, Cliff ..."[7]
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:18 am to
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Someone should email this article back to the author.



I am pretty sure he is well aware of what he wrote and his friends probably give him shite daily.
Posted by carbola
Bloomington, IN
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:18 am to
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will people look at the bitcoin hate as the same in 20 years?


Or will it look like the beanie baby fad? I'm hesitant on bitcoin only because I see it as a passing trend, but it wouldn't shock me if it turned out it was here to stay
Posted by 3nOut
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:19 am to
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Fun read.


Someone should email this article back to the author.



i have a good friend who is incredibly intelligent and amazingly wealthy. He wrote a portion of his dissertation for his MBA on why companies fail. One of the main ones he highlighted was why the iPod would be a failed venture for Apple and that the company would soon go under for not investing more in their OS and bread and butter of computers.

he let me read it and while it was very well written... whoops. he laughs now. he's a millionaire so I guess he can.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:20 am to
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the network is missing a most essential ingredient of capitalism: salespeople.


This is my favorite part about online shopping.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:24 am to
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Nailed it
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:24 am to
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Someone should email this article back to the author.


I'd be shocked if he didn't get it every single day. It's perhaps te biggest "Doh!" article ever written.
Posted by jrhettb
New Orleans
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:25 am to
Thanks for posting.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/9/14 at 11:25 am to
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Consider today's online world. The Usenet, a worldwide bulletin board, allows anyone to post messages across the nation. Your word gets out, leapfrogging editors and publishers. Every voice can be heard cheaply and instantly. The result? Every voice is heard. The cacophany more closely resembles citizens band radio, complete with handles, harrasment, and anonymous threats. When most everyone shouts, few listen.


He was 100% dead-on correct about this at least. The rest?
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