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Global warming. Can it get any more pathetic?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:00 am
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Global Warming and Cold Outbreak Linked, Say Climate Experts
Lets just pretend that long before we knew how much Arctic ice would melt, thereby causing this polar hurricane
, the Farmers Almanac was published predicting this winter to be 'brutal'. And since the Almanac has been using the same formula for 200 years, one would have to assume the patterns are cyclical, predictable and not influenced by Co2 production or ice melt
Edited title: so Rex can sleep tonight
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 10:18 am
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:01 am to League Champs
Werent we supposed to have a record hurricane season as well? Yeah, it shattered records allright, but the record of "least active hurricane season"
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:01 am to League Champs
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Farmers Almanac
Old timers still swear by it. I have to admit it has been right most of the time in my lifetime anyway.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:02 am to League Champs
The Earth is warming.
Science cannot honestly link it to human activity. Too many variables not considered / factored in.
This debate is all about politics and economic policy.
Science cannot honestly link it to human activity. Too many variables not considered / factored in.
This debate is all about politics and economic policy.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:04 am to CollegeFBRules
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The Earth is warming.
except for the last 15 years
and probably a bunch of other times before we recorded temps
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:06 am to League Champs
Reminds me of South Park's take on The Day After Tomorrow...
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Chet - Redneck: How about we cause more global warming? So that in the future the polar ice caps melt; and it ushers in a new ice age.
Pissed off Redneck: How the hell is global warming going to cause an ice age?
Chet - Redneck: Well you know, the global warming could be on a climate shift or something.
Pissed off Redneck: Chet, you are a frickin' retard you know that? Even IF global warming were real, which all proven scientific data shows it isn't, it would take millions of years for a climate shift to happen. You think an ice age can just happen all a sudden like?
Chet - Redneck: Well I was just trying to be helpful.
Pissed off Redneck: Well help yourself to a frickin' science book, cause you're talking like a frickin' retard.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:10 am to CollegeFBRules
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Science cannot honestly link it to human activity. Too many variables not considered / factored in.
Like one big one... "the sun", which is treated as a constant in most of these formulas. Hint - It isn't a constant, as you will get higher or lower activity in irregular cycles.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:12 am to Vegas Bengal
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Thanks for the link.
Oh absolutely
From the gods of weather, The Weather Channel
Even their own chart shows a large increase in sea ice, but this is the year of the polar hurricane
Why not 2006, when sea ice was at its lowest? You cant make this stuff up
Well, I take that back. Obviously you can
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:13 am to CollegeFBRules
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This debate is all about politics and economic policy.
It is about whether we give government more control over private industry and raise prices across the board on an already stretched consumer, or whether we allow private industry to produce as much as they see demand for their products.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:14 am to League Champs
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Can it get anymore pathetic?
I believe you mean "any more". "Anymore" is grammatically correct in your sentence as an adverb modifying your adjective "pathetic", but your grammatical construction doesn't accurately express what you're wishing to ask.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:15 am to League Champs
I am no scientist, but my best guess is that within the next 20 years or son, AGW will still be largely accepted BUT the degree to which human activity and CO2 influence temps is going to be significantly downgraded. The more reading I do on the science - not the politics - makes it clear just how many variables exist which makes the modeling extremely complicated. I suspect natural climate cycles, sunspots, volcanic activity, and other variables will prove to be significantly more important than CO2. Admittedly, just a guess.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:17 am to Rex
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I believe you mean "any more". "Anymore" is grammatically correct in your sentence as an adverb modifying your adjective "pathetic", but your grammatical construction doesn't accurately express what you're wishing to ask.
Thanks. I'll submit this to my spell check provider.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:17 am to League Champs
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You cant make this stuff up
Well, I take that back. Obviously you can
There are also questions as to whether a lot of these sensors claiming there is no ice are placed properly.
IIRC, some individuals got a list of where a lot of these sensors were supposed to be, pulled up the coordinates via satellite, and were able to show that the area WAS, in fact, covered in ice. The sensors were wrongly placed, non-functional, or just plain fraudulent.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:23 am to Rex
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:24 am to teke184
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There are also questions as to whether a lot of these sensors claiming there is no ice are placed properly.
Well the Weather Channel is trying to hedge its bet. Ater pimping the theory for a whole page, way, way, way down at the bottom of the story is this:
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In August, a study published by Elizabeth Barnes of Colorado State University called into question Francis' research that links Arctic amplification with the recent changes in the jet stream.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:27 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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. The more reading I do on the science - not the politics - makes it clear just how many variables exist which makes the modeling extremely complicated. I suspect natural climate cycles, sunspots, volcanic activity, and other variables will prove to be significantly more important than CO2.
well I am not sure if your conclusion is right or not but I will say this is a much better way to argue the point as opposed to denying it. Denying climate change just makes you look like an idiot, and couple it with the creationist nutjobs in the republican party and the dems can use the Rs position to bludgeon them.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 10:48 am to League Champs
From the Farmers Almanac website:
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The Farmers’ Almanac weather predictions are based on a secret mathematical and astronomical formula. Developed in 1818 by David Young, the Almanac‘s first editor, this formula takes many factors into consideration, including sunspot activity, moon phases, tidal action, and more. This carefully guarded formula has been passed along from calculator to calculator and has never been revealed.
The only person who knows all the details of our formula is Caleb Weatherbee, our esteemed weather prognosticator. The formula itself is locked in the heart and mind of its calculator. While Caleb is a real person who lives somewhere in the United States, his true identity and name are secret.
Unlike your local news, government, or commercial weather service, our forecasts are calculated several years in advance. Once the new year’s Farmers’ Almanac is printed, we never go back to change or update our forecasts the way other local sources do.
Though weather forecasting, and long-range forecasting in particular, remains an inexact science, many longtime Almanac followers claim that our forecasts are 80% to 85% accurate.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:03 am to League Champs
No, they can't get any more pathetic.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 11:06 am to wilfont
"I'm a conservative, I'm to stupid to understand the difference between weather and climate change, and I vote".
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