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Is a fixed number of seasons on the rise?

Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:28 pm
Posted by arktiger28
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:28 pm
I was just watching an interview with the writers of Justified concerning season 5. One guys said they had always envisioned 6 seasons and would be moving the pieces in place this season for the ending. With the success of Breaking Bad do you think this will become a more common practice? Imagine how much better Lost would have been if they hadn't stretched the story. I liked it a lot but it could have been better. I think TV could really improve with a fixed determination of seasons. Can you think of other shows that would have benefited from this concept?
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:31 pm to
Hope so, especially for high concept shows
Posted by Fearthehat0307
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:37 pm to
this would be amazing
Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:38 pm to
In some cases, the envisioning is just wishful thinking. If ratings are not as good they try to preempt cancellation by ending it in a couple of seasons.

5 seasons used to be the key number because they needed or wanted at least 100 episodes for syndication but shrinking seasons means they need to go further than 5 seasons to hit that key #.

Posted by TigerMyth36
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:40 pm to
And I don't think a fixed number is on the rise. If the ratings and budget justify a series continuing, in most cases it will continue.
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 6:54 pm
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:51 pm to
#sixseasonsandamovie
Posted by arktiger28
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

5 seasons used to be the key number because they needed or wanted at least 100 episodes for syndication but shrinking seasons means they need to go further than 5 seasons to hit that key #.


It seems pretty common for shows to peak at season 5. 24 is a good example of this.
Posted by Libertyabides71
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 7:14 pm to
quote:



It seems pretty common for shows to peak at season 5. 24 is a good example of this.



Original CSI as well. Though 6, 7, and 8 were actually very good. The story just seemed to freeze in place at the end of Season 5 when Grissom "got his guys back". The show feel apart though when William Petersen left permanently.
Posted by SundayFunday
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 7:24 pm to
Its a really good idea because it forces the writers to focus on what they really want out of the story. They know they only have a set amount of time to tell the story so theres less of a chance that they run wild like what happened with LOST.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 7:39 pm to
It depends on the type of show. If it has a narrative/story to tell then having a fixed number of seasons is a good thing that keeps episodes tight and the story on track. If it's one of these shows that's just there to milk as many seasons as possible then you get shoddy writing and filler episodes.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 7:44 pm to
OMG breaking bad is the GOAT, lost sucks after season 3.


what an original fricking thread
Posted by Froman
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

With the success of Breaking Bad do you think this will become a more common practice?


Breaking Bad is not a trendsetter in this regard. This has been happening more and more lately.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

OMG breaking bad is the GOAT, lost sucks after season 3.


what an original fricking thread



What the crap man? I actually count Lost as one of my favorite shows of all time. Incredible characters. I even loved the ending. I just felt like they had to stretch the story line.

The comment from the Justified writers made me wonder if this is more of a trend so I brought it up. I'll try to please you more in the future oh lord of thread originality.
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

Breaking Bad is not a trendsetter in this regard. This has been happening more and more lately.



What are some other examples?
Posted by lsutigersFTW
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:43 am to
I read that the creator of Arrow said they created the show with the vision of completing it in 5 seasons in mind. And that's a network show that does a full 22 episode season. So I think it is kind of trending that way among hour long dramas.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:50 am to
Supernatural was suppose to be 5 years that's why the season 5 finale felt like a series finale. Network talked them into extending the show. Reason seasons 6 & 7 are less than stellar because the writers had to rethink the entire direction of the show.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:57 am to
I hope so. Nothing worse than shows like the office going 4 seasons too many.
Posted by RonFNSwanson
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:59 am to
quote:

What the crap man? I actually count Lost as one of my favorite shows of all time. Incredible characters. I even loved the ending. I just felt like they had to stretch the story line.

The comment from the Justified writers made me wonder if this is more of a trend so I brought it up. I'll try to please you more in the future oh lord of thread originality.


don't mind him, he's just an angry douche
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:30 am to
Sweet spot just seems to be 5 to 7. 3 or 4 seems too short (although, like Star Trek - 3 long seasons can leave the fans wanting much more), while 8 to 10 seems too long, unless sticking more to the episodic format (really - what hour-long drama has retained the core cast for more than 5 to 6 years, even if the show itself soldiers on? NCIS? Any others?)

Really the grandfathers of the modern hour-long drama are Hill Street Blues (7 seasons) and St. Elsewhere (6 seasons).

The very best shows, both broadcast and cable have generally adhered to this (E/R, Law and Order: Whatever, notwithstanding) range.

The Shield - 7 (although the last 2 artificially split, could have been 6, total), The Wire - 5, The Sopranos - 6, Breaking Bad - 5.

Seems to be a trend.
This post was edited on 1/6/14 at 9:32 am
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:30 am to
The absolute best example of this is Prison Break. It was, from the start, designed to be just two seasons. It had great ratings, and they stretched it to a Season 3 and 4. 3 was meh, 4 downright sucked until about the last 2-3 episodes.
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