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Mack Brown vs Charlie Strong

Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:35 pm
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:35 pm
Who you taking?
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:36 pm to
Strong in everything except best hairstyle
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

Mack Brown
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:42 pm to
Schmoozing white folk? Mack Brown. Coaching football? Strong
Posted by JLock
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 1:08 am to
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Schmoozing white folk? Mack Brown. Coaching football? Strong


/thread
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7539 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 2:18 am to
May just be me, but I'm not greatly impressed with Charlie Strong. Was above average at Louisville. Beat some overrated Florida and Miami teams. Those are his claim to fame.

I don't think Strong was a step up from Mack Brown.

Guess we will see in a few years.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 2:22 am to
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Was above average at Louisville.


Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 3:25 am to
TAMU is in the SEC now. UT had to do something. Strong is going to be good. I doubt he wins a nattie.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:34 am to
quote:

Was above average at Louisville. Beat some overrated Florida and Miami teams. Those are his claim to fame.



Yeah, only getting to a Sugar Bowl at Louisville was above average. That "overrated" Florida unit beat LSU, FWIW.

quote:

I don't think Strong was a step up from Mack Brown.



Mack was good, but his time needed to be up.

quote:

Guess we will see in a few years.


Keep in mind, CS was a great coach/recruiter at Florida too (so at least he's been a part of a big-name program). I think it'd be interesting to see if he mixes both Texas and Florida talent there for his recruiting (his staff recruited Florida pretty well). It all depends on how he puts together his staff, obviously. I think he'll do fine.
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 6:36 am to
Strong.

Mack = so much meh
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:24 am to
Strong was 2-1 against ranked opponents in his 4 years at UL. I'd say with an all american QB, you can mask some of your coaching deficiencies. I still think he will be a good coach, but you can't base anything on what he did at UL. Especially since Clint Hurt won't be going with him.
Posted by TigerRantMan99
Bucktown
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:34 am to
This is not about Mack vs Strong.

Mack needed to go - this year or next but he needed to go.

Whether or not Strong is worth a shite as a replacement is the discussion but flat out it was time for Mack to head out.

Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/5/14 at 8:56 am to
IMO Strong is a home run hire. He will have Texas as a consistent top 10 defense, which is his strong point. And for those that say he made is name off of Teddy B. well the state of Texas churns out QB's at an alarming rate. He will bring an SEC style mindset on defense to Texas which will not bode well for the Big 12.
Posted by Tigercoop40
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2006
7539 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:05 am to
He accomplished what he needed to in a weak conference. People on this board sit here and say Boise State was overrated for playing no one. But think Charlie Strong is this monster coach in waiting.

Florida that year was like 2011 LSU but with lesser athletes. You can't hide your QB every game and expect to win. Eventually you'll get beat.

He may prove to be a good head coach at Texas. I think he was a little under proven to be the next head coach at Texas.

I also wonder how many of the Texas targets told them no. Maybe at that point he was the best available after the Saban's and Mora's.
This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 9:11 am
Posted by TigerRantMan99
Bucktown
Member since Feb 2009
2076 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 9:21 am to
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I also wonder how many of the Texas targets told them no. Maybe at that point he was the best available after ....


Without a doubt this was the case but there are plenty of times you just get lucky and end up with the right guy at the right time. At the very least Curtis Johnson was Tulane's 4th or 5th option

This post was edited on 1/5/14 at 9:22 am
Posted by Jesus Prejean
Member since Jan 2012
258 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:18 am to
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Beat some overrated Florida and Miami teams


The "overrated" Florida team beat LSU, Johnny Football, and went to a BCS bowl
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 10:57 am to
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The "overrated" Florida team beat LSU, Johnny Football, and went to a BCS bowl


Facts be damned when a point is to be proven.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:06 am to
Why do people think Strong is overrated? I've seen some people say that on this website and I don't really understand the reasoning. Do they think that Bridgewater covered his deficiencies as a coach? Doesn't the fact that he recruited Bridgewater, a nationally heralded recruit, to Louisville from Miami of all places speak to his recruiting abilities?

I think this is a really solid hire by Texas.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:07 am to
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I don't think Strong was a step up from Mack Brown.


the thing is that mack had gotten stale. his recruiting policies were outdated and he just didn't go back to the "basics" which is what he did to build the tejas program. he would sit in his office and "select" his recruits. his famous line went something like this...."we know who we want and they will have their chance, if they select to go to the greatest college on earth there will be a place for them but they'd better select early or we'll just go and select someone else".

the hell of it is that it worked for a little while and then his competitors just chipped away and chipped away and outworked him. i also feel he and his staff were not good talent evaluators; they probably overrelied on the damn recruiting services. lastly i think he surrounded himself with sycophants and let the program run itself while he smoozed and playcated the longhorn channel.

charlie strong will bring new energy and new blood into a program that has a close proximity to one hell of a lot of great high school talent. my understanding is that he is a very good recruiter and i think he is a good coach. and it's not like the cupboard is bare, he just needs a damn quarterback. also, his assts have to be better than mack had.
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 1/5/14 at 11:36 am to
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Why do people think Strong is overrated?


Probably because his record in 4 years (at UL) against ranked opponents is 2-1. I think he is going to be a good coach, but Texas is reaching a bit here. We really don't know what kind of Coach Charlie is at this point.
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