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NFL "Late Round" Rookie Salary Differences: 2008 to 2013
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:16 am
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:16 am
5th Round:
For my 2008 example, i picked Frank Okam, who was signed to a contract with a $178,000 signing bonus. he was the 151st pick
For my 2013 example, i'll pick the same slot: Joseph Randle, RB for the Cowboys. The contract will include a signing bonus of $188,880.
6th Round:
Colt Brennan was teh 186th pick and signed with the Skins:
In 2013, the Steeler's selected Justin Brown. His contract summary: Signing bonus: $105k with salaries of $405k, 495k, 585k, and 675k
So there is not a noticeable difference in the rookie contracts you found pre-CBA and post-CBA. The CBA did not markedly affect the guaranteed money late-round picks receive. Hell, the differences in signing bonus don't even appear to be rising with standard inflation.
For my 2008 example, i picked Frank Okam, who was signed to a contract with a $178,000 signing bonus. he was the 151st pick
For my 2013 example, i'll pick the same slot: Joseph Randle, RB for the Cowboys. The contract will include a signing bonus of $188,880.
6th Round:
Colt Brennan was teh 186th pick and signed with the Skins:
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Brennan will receive a signing bonus of less than $100,000 ...Brennan will earn $295,000 this season, $385,000 the second season, $470,000 the third and $555,000 the fourth.
In 2013, the Steeler's selected Justin Brown. His contract summary: Signing bonus: $105k with salaries of $405k, 495k, 585k, and 675k
So there is not a noticeable difference in the rookie contracts you found pre-CBA and post-CBA. The CBA did not markedly affect the guaranteed money late-round picks receive. Hell, the differences in signing bonus don't even appear to be rising with standard inflation.
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
I think a more noticeable difference is projected top 3 round picks leaving because of the new agreement in order to get a an earlier chance at the more lucrative post rookie contract.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:20 am to SlowFlowPro
Amen. These guys leaving as non first rounders are making mistakes.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:21 am to SlowFlowPro
I also agree with the threads premise (or what I perceive it to be) that it doesn't make much financial sense for projected late round picks to leave early.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:21 am to BeeFense5
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I think a more noticeable difference is projected top 3 round picks leaving because of the new agreement in order to get a an earlier chance at the more lucrative post rookie contract.
i can go look for contracts but i don't think it makes much of a difference past like picks 15 or so
and the guys leaving early that are making heads scratch aren't top 3 round possibilities (just throwing out names discussed: ego, turner, hilliard, magee). landry/OBJ should be top 3 round locks. hill almost there. freak is getting hype in the draftink circles, but i'd say he's 50/50 to go in the top 3 rounds. that's a total of 4, and those guys make sense. the egos, turners, faulks, etc are the ones that kill our depth.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:22 am to SlowFlowPro
It's all about getting to the 2nd contract quicker. You should know better 
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:22 am to tenderfoot tigah
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These guys leaving as non first rounders are making mistakes.
why do you cut it off at the first round?
and i am not saying the guys leaving early are making mistakes
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:22 am to BeeFense5
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I also agree with the threads premise (or what I perceive it to be) that it doesn't make much financial sense for projected late round picks to leave early.
you perceive incorrectly
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:23 am to SlowFlowPro
My bad. You saying it's wise to jump early?
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:24 am to bee Rye
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It's all about getting to the 2nd contract quicker.
this theoretically makes sense, but
1. it made sense before last year and under the old CBA
2. this rationale applies to every school, but we're the one major outlier
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You should know better
wut
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:25 am to BeeFense5
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You saying it's wise to jump early?
i'm not really arguing either way, but i don't think turner is going to improve his draft stock in a major way by coming back, especially if stud stays. one more year under stud will not improve him. "he is what he is" at that point
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:35 am to SlowFlowPro
It's the 2nd Contract
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Because of the NFL's new economic climate, which features a suffocating wage scale for rookies, especially those outside of the first round, any draftable prospect who isn't leaving school early to become a pro might be wasting time and money.
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Tight end Jordan Reed, who left the Florida Gators early despite not having a first- or second-round projection, openly admitted starting his NFL clock earlier was a deciding factor.
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Considering the NFL's big money now comes on a player's second contract -- if he can get to it -- the sooner and younger players are when they get there the better. That's what many agents are selling, and it is factual in most cases.
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This is the new economic model of the post-lockout NFL, which features a CBA contract that encourages players to get to their second deal.
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The time for most of the NCAA's rising stars to depart early is coming because the NFL and its pay-for-play approach is calling.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:37 am to Sal Minella
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Because of the NFL's new economic climate, which features a suffocating wage scale for rookies, especially those outside of the first round, any draftable prospect who isn't leaving school early to become a pro might be wasting time and money.
what has changed for late round picks?
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Considering the NFL's big money now comes on a player's second contract -- if he can get to it -- the sooner and younger players are when they get there the better. That's what many agents are selling, and it is factual in most cases.
this was true for late round picks in the old CBA, too
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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what has changed for late round picks?
The term "late round picks" has changed with the new CBA. A franchise is paying virtually the same money for a 2nd round pick as they are a "late round pick"
All rookies get a 4 year deal. 1st rounders are eligible for a 5th year option to be picked up by the team.
No rookie can't renegotiate the contract until after their third year. So if a 2nd rounder and 6th rounder are going to make marginally different money, go ahead and start the clock to get to the second contract.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:52 am to tenderfoot tigah
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Amen. These guys leaving as non first rounders are making mistakes.
Only so many guys can go in the first round. Also a guy coming back to school doesn't improve their draft status. Actually, you usually only see guys dropping in the draft when they return.
I can't think of any guys that improved their draft status by coming back to school. Anyone can help me out?
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:57 am to tenderfoot tigah
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Amen. These guys leaving as non first rounders are making mistakes.
I think somebody missed the point of the post, there is more incentive to leave even if you get drafted 5-7 round than there was before
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:57 am to bee Rye
quote:I know this is the case. However, I would love to see stats on the odds of a late round pick's career REACHING the 2nd contract? Obviously many do, but I'd love to know the numbers.
It's all about getting to the 2nd contract quicker. You should know better
I guess the decision for those guys though really comes down to if they think they can move OUT of the late rounds and into early ones with one more year in college. If not, probably worth the risk to leave. But, there are probably a lot of Trev Faulks out there.
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:58 am to Sal Minella
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The term "late round picks" has changed with the new CBA. A franchise is paying virtually the same money for a 2nd round pick as they are a "late round pick"
All rookies get a 4 year deal. 1st rounders are eligible for a 5th year option to be picked up by the team.
No rookie can't renegotiate the contract until after their third year. So if a 2nd rounder and 6th rounder are going to make marginally different money, go ahead and start the clock to get to the second contract.
again, how does this affect "late round" players like turner, faulk, etc?
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:59 am to Sterling Archer
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I can't think of any guys that improved their draft status by coming back to school. Anyone can help me out?
are we talking from initial eligibility or what?
Posted on 1/4/14 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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what has changed for late round picks?
I think the question is what changed for non-first round picks.
Unless you can improve enough to get in the first round, is it worth delaying your NFL career to be a slightly higher paid second rounder than a 5th rounder?
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