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Scoring on Bama's defense!!! Take note Coach Miles & Cameron

Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1621 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:42 pm
The Alabama defense gave up 181 points this season. 121 of them to 3 teams: Texas A&M, AU, & OU. In their other 10 games they gave up only 60 points. That's an average of 6 pts/game vs. a 40 pt./game average against the 3 teams mentioned above.


After watching OU's win over Bama last night in the Sugar Bowl, right after Auburn torched Bama's vaunted defense, and seeing what Texas A&M did to them earlier this year it's obvious to me.

The way to beat Bama is with tempo, speed, misdirection, counters, and anything but running right at them which we seem to keep thinking works.

I hope the coaches on offense look at the game tape and realize that those large, big, LB's and Defensive players for Bama do not like to run around all day chasing small fast guys like Jalen Saunders and Tre Mason!
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:43 pm to
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The way to beat Bama is with tempo, speed, misdirection, counters, and anything but running right at them which we seem to keep thinking works.



I bet you were mad when Jefferson played over Lee.
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2849 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:47 pm to
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I bet you were mad when Jefferson played over Lee.


Jefferson wasn't that fast and was not a threat to pass deep to anything but wide open receivers. OP is correct in their observations.
Posted by BCS Statmaster
Member since Jan 2007
1552 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:48 pm to
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I bet you were mad when Jefferson played over Lee.


Particularly in the NC.
Posted by TIGERVATO
Spring, TX.
Member since Jan 2008
1499 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:50 pm to
To beat Bama you must make them big boys run, you must make them linebackers guess. Les Miles plays right into the strengths of Bama defense, frustrating as hell.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:50 pm to
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Jefferson wasn't that fast and was not a threat to pass deep to anything but wide open receivers.



Where does the OP mention anything about this?


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Jefferson wasn't that fast


Faster than the statue that was Lee.




And yes, I know that Jefferson sucked. I just don't like it when people get mad at the coaches for doing something one year, and the next whine about the coaches not doing the thing that they didn't want them to do the year before.
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1621 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:55 pm to
Oh you mean when Jefferson kept running that short side of the field option that Bama had been waiting for since 2 days before the game started?

I'm never mad when coaches try something new like play Jefferson when Lee is having a bad day, but running the same offense against a D that is clearly ready for it is mindless and dumb. Did we even throw the ball to Rueben Randle that game?
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1621 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:01 pm to
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I just don't like it when people get mad at the coaches for doing something one year, and the next whine about the coaches not doing the thing that they didn't want them to do the year before.


So you're saying we've run an offense like Auburn's, or Texas A&M's or Oklahoma's every other year.

No, essentially we run right at those big boys every year, till they wear us out, then they run away with the game.
Posted by cheeser
downtown Fishville
Member since Feb 2007
2500 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:01 pm to
If I had to guess Miles was watching something on the agriculture channel rather than watching the Alabama blowout
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9111 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:04 pm to
I have been waiting for a gameplan like this for years....... I've given up!!! Idk why we don't try to confuse anyone?? It would work sooooooo well because we have never done it.
Posted by BCS Statmaster
Member since Jan 2007
1552 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:05 pm to
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agriculture channel


I hear that smoking grass stimulates the imagination more so than eating it ...
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
39847 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:11 pm to
OU beat Bama because their QB was ON FIRE.

The kid literally looked like Brees in the Dome...

They got up on Bama, made Bama play catch up and had the speed off the edge to make AJ make mistakes.

It's that simple.

Now, back to LSU - JC just powers into the end zone and doesn't fumble and we have Bama in the same spot... playing catchup. Food for thought.
Posted by BRAVEHEART
Member since Aug 2012
1525 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:14 pm to
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I bet you were mad when Jefferson played over Lee.
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Particularly in the NC.
The team and offense were zipping along like a well oiled machine at 8-0 in the 2011 with JL at QB. Then Dumbeaux miraculously inserts JefferSwag into the lineup and the offense immediately floundered. They looked out of synch the rest of the season, culminating in that JefferSwag led Grand Abomination in the Superdome.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39978 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:16 pm to
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The team and offense were zipping along like a well oiled machine at 8-0 in the 2011 with JL at QB

Great revisionist history. If you consider that offense to have been "zipping along" then this year's offense was the greatest in college football history.
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BRAVEHEART

Oh wait, nevermind.
Posted by tiger88
Member since Jan 2006
1041 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:21 pm to
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The team and offense were zipping along like a well oiled machine at 8-0 in the 2011 with JL at QB. Then Dumbeaux miraculously inserts JefferSwag into the lineup and the offense immediately floundered. They looked out of synch the rest of the season, culminating in that JefferSwag led Grand Abomination in the Superdome.


I remember this well. Miles has yet to explain it too.
Posted by NGATiger
Member since Dec 2013
3044 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:22 pm to
Bama has a Nose, DT sized guys at their end spots, and end sized guys at OLB. While they are athletes, you can only move a big body around so much. Make em run around.

OU also hit them with the Deep ball, which is key. HAVE to watch their safeties, bc besides the inside backers their safeties are usually their biggest strength IMO and will make plays on the ball.

Run sweeps, counters, read and triple option plays, SCREENS which we couldn't do well this year, and the deep ball to keep their safeties honest. Even AU got a deep pass or two on em.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16368 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:24 pm to
FTR, what A&M (Manziel) do on O is pretty different than what Auburn/OU did.

Nonetheless, your point is well-taken. Bama's D is built to defend more conventional O's, not the HUNH, etc so prevalent today.

As for last night, OU's QB made some incredible throws and their play-calling was nothing less than spectacular.


Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16706 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:25 pm to
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OU beat Bama because their QB was ON FIRE.


While this is true, there's no denying the impact the hurry-up offense had: Smart couldnt substitute his players in and make the calls they normally do based on down and distance.

If im LSU next year, i get in a formation thats multiple on early downs (multiple plays/formations can be run from it), and once Bama gets a D on the field that we like, go no huddle and roll down the field.....














...until they start faking injuries.
Posted by LSUGoo
Member since Jul 2009
2152 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:25 pm to
This is why you need players like Speedy..multiple game breakers on the field at the same time...
Wouda Coulda Shouda...Fournette, Quinn, Dupre and Noils on the field at the same time...Gumpville whould have no answer for that..
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1621 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:38 pm to
Great point Meauxjeaux, but we needed to be up by 2 TD's for it to be similar to what OU did last night. I loved how pressure on McCarron made him look very ordinary. Same thing happens to Brees unfortunately. That OU QB could elude the pressure and their screen passes over the middle were executed to perfection. Made even CJ Moseley look ordinary. Scheme and preparation beat Bama last night along with great QB play. Maybe Brandon Harris can do that for us next year? Whatayasay?
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