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Glenn Greenwald owning a fat NSA/GOV apologist

Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:47 pm
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:59 pm to
Beautiful.

Testing the Constitutional system
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:01 pm to
When Glenn Greenwald speaks school is in session and you'd best listen up. Don't agree with him on everything but on this stuff I'm on the same page. I respect that he called out Bush for this stuff and didn't let up when Obama got into office.

A man with principles
Posted by AUin02
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:10 pm to
Decatur man, buy yourself a treadmill yeesh.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:14 pm to
We've got to get rid of the Patriot Act. That would be a good start
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:34 pm to
Could there be a bigger drama queen than Glenn Greenwald?

Maybe Jeremy Scahill
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:39 pm to
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drama queen
why you so homophobic bro?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:42 pm to
I'm sure you found the NSA terribly offensive back in 2006 along with Biden, you Obama apologist.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:44 pm to
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why you so homophobic bro?


Has nothing to do with his sexuality as far as I'm concerned

Dude just feeds off of drama
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:48 pm to
Hack 4 Life.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:51 pm to
Spit the dick out.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:54 pm to
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I'm sure you found the NSA terribly offensive back in 2006 along with Biden, you Obama apologist.


They were conducting warantless surveillance back then. FISA Amendments Act then passed. Surveillance has since been conducted within the appropriate legal frameworks. Compliance incidents get reported to the appropriate authorites and changes are made as needed. It was working fairly well before Snowden took it upon himself to burn it all.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:55 pm to
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Has nothing to do with his sexuality as far as I'm concerned
you called him a queen - you wouldn't have used that word to describe a straight man.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:59 pm to
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you wouldn't have used that word to describe a straight man.


Yeah I would. I thought I did with Scahill.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 11:10 pm to
I really feel like having a Snapple right about now.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 11:15 pm to
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They were conducting warantless surveillance back then. FISA Amendments Act then passed. Surveillance has since been conducted within the appropriate legal frameworks. Compliance incidents get reported to the appropriate authorites and changes are made as needed. It was working fairly well before Snowden took it upon himself to burn it all.


It was illegal until the gov passed a law with secret courts and secret rules to make it legal...that's fricking awesome.

Does burning it down mean letting all the citizens in a democratic republic know that their is a giant general dragnet collecting their phone data without their consent under a secret law that they were never made aware of under the supervision of secret courts they didn't know about? If so then burn all of that down.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 11:19 pm
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/2/14 at 11:22 pm to
Bingo.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 11:23 pm to
FISC has been around for decades

The Bush Admin was operating outside of FISA and without warrants. Warrants are now required for USP targeted surveillance as defined by the Act.

Maybe if you learned more about the legal framework you would be less upset
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73411 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 11:25 pm to
Same assholes that were digging up shite on ex wives and girlfriends self report their illegal activity.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 11:28 pm to
Or there isn't a legal framework which could excuse this secret intrusion...seriously you act as if some law rendered by the state permitting it to violate my rights makes it ok. But it's especially offensive that it was secretly "legal".
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