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Would this be racist?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:53 pm
Suppose I was a slaveowner, owned black slaves BUT I made sure the total composition of my slaves reflected the population so they were say 20% black and 80% white at the time.
Would I be considered a racist as most slavers are?
Would I be considered a racist as most slavers are?
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Posted on 1/1/14 at 8:55 pm to prplhze2000
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Suppose I was a slaveowner, owned black slaves BUT I made sure the total composition of my slaves reflected the population so they were say 20% black and 80% white at the time.
If you're a slaveowner there's already so much wrong with you.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:07 pm to prplhze2000
You shouldve stopped at being a slaveowner. It may not be racist but its way beyond that in the "being wrong" category.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:08 pm to SpidermanTUba
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If you're a slaveowner there's already so much wrong with you.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:12 pm to prplhze2000
Better yet, are black slaveowners racist?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:12 pm to SpidermanTUba
If you believed his post, you're so stupid...wait, never mind - forget the first part.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 9:15 pm to prplhze2000
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Suppose I was a slaveowner, owned black slaves BUT I made sure the total composition of my slaves reflected the population
So you would be what we call the Government?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 10:31 pm to prplhze2000
There's no such thing as a stupid question. Only people can be stupid.
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:08 pm to beulahland
This is a good question. How did free blacks justify having black slaves?
Posted on 1/1/14 at 11:18 pm to prplhze2000
How many acres of cotton you got?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:02 am to bencoleman
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This is a good question. How did free blacks justify having black slaves?
It's a terrible question. A few free blacks at the margin were just as corrupted and dehumanized by the immoral system as the majority whites that ran it.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:32 am to Big Scrub TX
Why is it a terrible question? I saw on a PBS special. That white slave owners were cruel, while free black slaveowners were kind and compassionate. I wonder who was worse? It also wasn't fringe it was quite common in LA.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 12:46 am to Big Scrub TX
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It's a terrible question. A few free blacks at the margin were just as corrupted and dehumanized by the immoral system as the majority whites that ran it.
Casor suit
When Johnson was released from servitude, he was legally recognized as a "free Negro" and ran a successful farm. In 1651 he owned 250 acres, and the services of four white and one black indentured servant. In 1653, John Casor, a black indentured servant Johnson had apparently bought in the early 1640s, approached Captain Goldsmith, claiming his indenture had expired seven years earlier and that he was being held illegally. A neighbor, Robert Parker, intervened, and Johnson was persuaded to set Casor free.
Parker offered Casor work, and he signed a term of indenture to the planter. Johnson sued Parker in the Northampton Court in 1654 for the return of Casor. The court initially found in favor of Parker, but Johnson appealed. In 1655, the court reversed its ruling. Finding that Anthony Johnson still "owned" John Casor, the court ordered that he be returned with the court dues paid by Robert Parker. This was the first instance of a judicial determination in the thirteen colonies holding that a person who had committed no crime could be held in servitude for life.
Kind of ironic the person who started slavery for life in America was a black man.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:11 am to Big Scrub TX
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A few free blacks at the margin were just as corrupted and dehumanized by the immoral system as the majority whites that ran it.
While I will not defend the system, this question is further complicated by the fact that some black slaveowners bought their own family members and legally held them as slaves. Not exactly apples to apples in those cases.
Just as bad would be to suggest that all white slaveholders were cruel, inhumane and acted barbarously towards their slaves (although many certainly fit this description). The institution was irredeemably corrupt and immoral, but it is a far, far more complicated a question that most people are prepared to concede.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 1:12 am
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:15 am to prplhze2000
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Suppose I was a slaveowner, owned black slaves BUT I made sure the total composition of my slaves reflected the population so they were say 20% black and 80% white at the time. Would I be considered a racist as most slavers are?
Yes, because you still crossed over into another's racial sovereignty and community by enslaving a single person of a different race.
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:33 am to Ace Midnight
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Just as bad would be to suggest that all white slaveholders were cruel, inhumane and acted barbarously towards their slaves
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:38 am to Ace Midnight
I have often wondered what PBS hoped to galn by the statement they made. The only logical reason I could come up with was to. Promote racial division and hatred. The next question I asked myself was why wouldthey do such a thing?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:40 am to bencoleman
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I have often wondered what PBS hoped to galn by the statement they made. The only logical reason I could come up with was to. Promote racial division and hatred. The next question I asked myself was why wouldthey do such a thing?
Why so hung up? Don't you have better things to wonder about?
Posted on 1/2/14 at 1:47 am to Easy
I would say that a govt. Run station promoting racial hatred is very disturbing.
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